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Call Start
2026-06-09 19:47
Duration
74m 59s
Contact
Matthew Beesmer
Issue Type
Internet/WAN Setup
V2 Outcome
Unresolved
V2 Band
Needs Improvement

Agent & Case Context

Agent
Aysah Bagumbaran
HappyFox Case
#LTS00132827
Support Country
United States
Product Family
MESH SYSTEMS
CSAT
Sentiment Trajectory
Ticket subject: WHW03 reconfiguration
Transcript quality flagged: the ASR/quality-validation pipeline detected and excluded unreliable transcript segments from grading (3 hallucinated segments, 1 too-garbled-to-score segment). Excluded from aggregate KPIs — treat remaining scores and transcript with caution.

V1 Rubric Scores

Resolution2.00/5
Accuracy1.00/5
Communication2.00/5
Protocol2.00/5
Efficiency2.00/5
Overall1.8/5

V2 Rubric Scores

Resolution2.19/5
Technical0.94/5
Communication0.00/5
Ownership4.00/5
Escalation5.00/5
Customer Exp0.00/5
Overall38.9% (+2.9)

V2 Grader Summary

The agent maintained ownership and correctly applied OOW paid support policy, but provided materially inaccurate technical guidance, failed to use diagnostic tools, and delivered a poorly structured, empathy-lacking interaction that left the customer's network non-functional. Despite attempting resets and node reconfiguration, core diagnostics were skipped, and KB-contradicted advice was given, resulting in no resolution.

V1 Case Analysis

WHW03 parent and VLP01 child nodes show solid red, no internet. Agent performed resets, 5-press pairing, suggested MAC cloning and ISP contact. Multiple technical inaccuracies noted. Issue unresolved; advised to contact ISP or test MX20 units.

Troubleshooting Steps
  • Factory reset of parent and child nodes (press reset until LED off).
  • Attempted 5‑press pairing method on the parent node.
  • Checked default Wi‑Fi SSID broadcast and instructed to connect to it.
  • Suggested MAC address cloning on the Spectrum modem.
  • Advised contacting ISP for modem configuration.
  • Guided the customer to try MX20 WHW nodes as a replacement.
Key Observations
  • Agent provided multiple materially incorrect technical statements (e.g., LED meanings, app compatibility, pairing behavior) that misled troubleshooting.
  • Agent failed to verify modem internet status or perform any WAN test, skipping a critical diagnostic step.
  • Call flow was disorganized with repeated hold music, filler, and contradictory instructions; agent jumped between reset, pairing, and ISP advice without validation.
  • Agent incorrectly claimed WHW03 cannot be set up via the Linksys app due to cloud service removal, which is not supported by KB.
  • Payment processing took over 5 minutes with repeated 'opening my tourist' errors, indicating system or training issues.
Positive Highlights
  • Collected the serial number (20J2060A839618) and confirmed warranty status [03:00–08:00].
  • Identified the product models (WHW03 and VLP01) and topology correctly [05:00].
  • Offered a paid-support option when the product was out of warranty, following business policy [08:00].
  • Attempted multiple troubleshooting paths including reset, 5-press, and alternative hardware [22:00, 36:00, 63:00].
  • Maintained a polite tone and closed the call professionally [74:00].
Agent Errors / Gaps
  • Incorrect LED color interpretations for WHW03 (e.g., [28:00] claimed blinking yellow = weak signal; KB states blinking yellow = pairing in progress).
  • Stated [54:00] that WHW03 cannot be set up via the Linksys app due to cloud service removal — this is inaccurate; app setup is supported for WHW03 with updated firmware.
  • Suggested [47:00] MAC address cloning on a Spectrum modem without confirming need or explaining the process — Spectrum typically does not require MAC cloning for router replacement.
  • Mixed up solid red/blinking red meanings and gave contradictory guidance on pairing success [33:00, 48:00].
  • Failed to follow a clear troubleshooting flow; repeatedly switched between reset, 5-press, and ISP advice without validation [22:00–48:00].
  • Provided unclear or incomplete instructions for the 5‑press method [27:00], failing to specify timing or expected LED behavior.
  • Claimed [45:00] that blinking yellow means 'weak signal' — incorrect; it indicates pairing in progress or firmware update.
  • Incorrectly stated [49:00] that SYNC light on Spectrum modem blinking red indicates configuration issue — SYNC light is not a standard indicator for Spectrum modems.
  • Repeatedly said 'opening my tourist' instead of 'opening my tools' [11:00, 15:00], indicating lack of familiarity with system terminology.
  • Failed to verify WAN connectivity or perform basic isolation (e.g., direct modem-to-PC test) before suggesting hardware or ISP issues [35:00].

V2 Indicator Ratings

Resolution
R1 Not Met Issue actually resolved conf 98%
Customer's parent node remains solid red with no internet; agent did not resolve the issue and closed with advice to call ISP and try new hardware.
R2 Partially Met Diagnostic thoroughness conf 92%
Agent performed factory resets and attempted 5-press pairing, but skipped essential diagnostics like speed test at modem, WAN IP check, or verifying PPPoE/DHCP settings.
R3 Met Correct resolution path conf 95%
Agent correctly identified the WHW03 and VLP01 as out-of-warranty and offered paid support, which is the proper path per policy for OOW devices requiring troubleshooting.
Technical Accuracy
T1 Partially Met Technically accurate info conf 88%
Agent identified symptom (solid red LED, no internet) and attempted isolation by swapping parent node, but did not ask about WAN IP, modem status, or perform upstream verification.
T2 Not Met Appropriate tools / resources used conf 97%
Agent never accessed router web UI, ran no speed tests, checked no logs, and failed to use any diagnostic tools despite clear need; relied solely on visual LED interpretation and payment system.
T3 Not Met No misinformation conf 98%
Agent claimed WHW03/VLP01 can no longer be set up via app due to cloud removal — contradicted by KB which confirms 5-press method is valid; incorrectly described yellow LED as 'weak signal' (should be pairing); suggested MAC clone without confirming ISP binding.
Communication
C1 Not Met Clear & professional language conf 96%
Frequent long silences ('[silence]'), disorganized flow, abrupt topic shifts, and failure to maintain control — e.g., agent said 'somebody's gone' mid-call and lost thread.
C2 Not Met Confirmed understanding conf 94%
Agent used inconsistent terminology (e.g., 'solid green' vs 'solid blue'), gave contradictory setup instructions, and failed to confirm understanding despite customer confusion about app vs 5-press method.
Customer Ownership
O1 Met Ownership & empathy conf 93%
Agent owned the case throughout, processed payment, stayed on extended call, and did not transfer or abandon the customer despite technical limitations.
O2 Partially Met Proactive follow-through conf 87%
Agent advised customer to call Spectrum and try MX20WH units, but provided no timeline, follow-up plan, or clear next-step ownership beyond general suggestions.
O3 Not Applicable Closure confirmation conf 100%
No prior case history referenced or observable; this appears to be the first contact for this issue.
Escalation Judgment
E1 Met Correct escalation decision conf 95%
No escalation was warranted — issue was OOW with no confirmed hardware defect; agent appropriately handled via paid support instead of escalating to Tier 2.
E2 Not Applicable Escalation prep & handoff conf 100%
No escalation occurred and none was warranted; E2 is not applicable by rubric rules.
Customer Experience
X1 Not Met Customer effort minimised conf 96%
Agent showed no empathy despite customer frustration, repeated resets, and financial concern; no acknowledgment of effort or inconvenience.
X2 Not Met Tone & rapport conf 95%
Agent maintained a detached, transactional tone, failed to adapt to customer’s confusion about setup methods, and did not check comprehension after complex instructions.
X3 Not Met Overall experience conf 97%
Customer had to repeat serial number multiple times; agent asked for same info twice and created avoidable friction by not documenting it initially.
Call Transcript132 turns · 139 lines
Speaker 1
Yes. So, I have a Linksys Velop system and somehow it hard, like helped it, do some of these, like helped me to request for, stop doing it and might surprise to hear that it's doing all these things for us. Okay. I have also connected an NVIDIA Shield TV Pro to it.
00:00
Speaker 2
Welcome to Linksys Support. To ensure quality service, your call may be monitored. For in warranty products, our support team is available to help with performance and hardware issues. Register your product by visiting register.linksys.com. Please have your device serial number ready. For assistance, press one now. For out of warranty products, paid support may be available depending on your issue. To hear more about your service options, please have your device's serial number and contact information ready. If unavailable, kindly call back later. For out of warranty products, paid support options may be available depending on the issue. Thank you for calling Linksys. This is Ice. how can I help you? [silence]
00:00
Speaker 1
We're closed a bit. I have a backup wireless router, and I got to work fine, and I so it's not my, you know, cable provider or my internet provider. It's it's my parent node that's not working, or I can't get it to reset. Is there a customer service for that? Uh, solid red. And I've since tried to reset it. I've held the button down. I've done the reset process with the app, and I got it to work.
01:00
Speaker 2
I see. Um, you said that your router was, we said, what's the status, like, or the color of its, like?
01:00
Speaker 1
We're at one point, but then it says, you know, I got it to connect it, and then it says, you know, internet not working. But like I said, my internet is working. I swapse out DSL cable. I have no idea what to possibly do. Is there any what happened? It was working fine, and then all of a sudden it stopped working last night. We thought it was the, you know, the modem coming in from our spectrum. But then all of a sudden, like, you know, we named our Wi-Fi at the house. And then all of a sudden the only thing it that wasn't coming up, it was coming up, you know, L setup. [silence] [silence]
02:00
Speaker 2
Uh, I see. Uh, so it was reset because, uh, if it's showing only develop setup. And as you've said, you have reset your router. So it's showing only the deep.
02:00
Speaker 1
Right. That, it's on the back somewhere? I have to see the picture of it because I can't read it. 20 j two zero six zero a eight three nine six one eight
03:00
Speaker 2
default Wi-Fi name of your router and not the Wi-Fi name you created. Uh before we proceed, sir, can you provide me the serial number of your Linksys router? Yeah, it's underneath the router under product label sticker. [silence] So, it's 20, J for John, 26083816, 23944, J for John, DD [silence] It's 2018 J for John 486146 6-1-8 That's correct. Two zero. Can you say that again? Yes. All right, got it. Thank you. So Your Linksys water is model WHW03. How many of these Linksys product you have [silence]
03:00
Speaker 1
three other, smaller ones. Like, the child homes that are the VL PO, one? Yes. No. Well, that's no. The other three nodes are VL, they say model number VL p zero one. They're they're, there, they are. Correct, yes. Now, could, could be? Could the other one become parent nodes, or no?
05:00
Speaker 2
my, up here, on the of the parent node is the only system or, yes.
05:00
Speaker 1
yeah, but it's not working. I mean, it's telling me there's no internet connection, and now it's won't even connect again.
06:00
Speaker 2
Let me check on that because you have already set up your uh, W-H-W, so we asked the parent, uh, so to make the VLP-01 as a parent node, it could possibly be, but typically, it should be the W-H-W-3 because your W-H-W SSL uh, certificate is not in this server in this server, VLP-01 SSL certificate is also not bound to this server. So please set it up as a parent node on W-H-W-3, uh, root domain is bound to W-H-W-3. So, uh, please give it a try. It should be the correct one.[silence]
06:00
Speaker 1
Okay. Okay. Okay. Well, that's the thing, I don't know if that's still operational, like it doesn't it seems not to be working. yep, that's correct [silence] how much for that cost?
07:00
Speaker 2
Before we proceed, sir, may I just confirm if your name is Matt Bromer? All right. So I've checked on our system with regards to your Linksys product, and our records indicate that your Linksys products are already out of warranty. The warranty status expired last 2022. So, uh, if you want me to walk you through the steps on how to troubleshoot the issue with your parent node, uh, you will have to, apply for paid support or paid connect service because I cannot walk you through the steps for free technical support because your product is already out of warranty.
08:00
Speaker 1
50? Wait, how much? 50, you said? Oh. Oh! Okay. All right. I thought... Yeah. Okay.
09:00
Speaker 2
Your paid support will cost you 15 US dollar, one five, ah, 15, it's only 15, one five. All Alright, alright, so, um, I'll just, uh, explain first to you that this peaked support, uh, is only good for this call session, a maximum of 60 minutes, that's the maximum for the peaked connect service. If the time is up, or we cannot longer proceed with the troubleshooting steps. Uh, I'm It's a one-time non-refundable technical support, and there is no guarantee that we'll be able to resolve the issue with your parental because we don't know yet
09:00
Speaker 1
Okay. So we can troubleshoot it in that 60 minutes, correct? That'll count. Okay. That's what I'm hoping for. So yeah, tell me what I have to do. Okay.
10:00
Speaker 2
If the node just gets disconnected temporarily from your internet connection, or it is because of a hardware issue that's why your partner got disconnected. Okay. All right. Yeah. We could do some troubleshooting steps for [REDACTED_PAYMENT_DIGITS] minutes, we can try to do more steps what could be the issue. maybe we could even reconnect it back. All right. I'm going to put up first my tools for the payment transaction. [silence]
10:00
Speaker 1
Sure. Now all I have is my cell phone [silence] to like set it up. Is that sufficient like to be able to connect to it and the app? [silence]
11:00
Speaker 2
All right. Hold on. Matt, I'm still opening my tourist. [silence] All right. Hold on. [silence] Matt, I'm still opening my tourist. [silence] bin. [silence] I think someone's gone. [silence] Somebody's gone. [silence] Over and under. [silence]
11:00
Speaker 1
Phone, okay, yes, I see. I can breathe. So hold on, camera. Breathe, relax, yes, I can breathe, I need, I can't think of anything, okay, phone, yes, visa,
12:00
Speaker 2
Yes. Yes, we can set it up using your phone. In fact, we could set it up set it up in another we're method, but we'll we'll proceed to that first after the payment transaction is done. Okay. Um and the card that you're going to use. So you're going to use a visa card for the payment internet just service. May I know what's the first name on the card?
12:00
Speaker 1
B is for boy, E is for Edward, E is for Edward, S is for Sam, M is for Matt, E is for Edward, R is for Robert. yep. Yep. B-E-E-S-M-E-R. Correct. Four one. Yep. Are you ready? Okay. Four one, six eight, four four, zero zero, five zero nine two three zero two six.
13:00
Speaker 2
All right, Matthew, and the last name is B-E-E-S-M-E-R, Bissmer. All right. All right, the card number, Matthew, is all right. It's [REDACTED_PAYMENT_DIGITS]
13:00
Speaker 1
Correct. Yes. Yep. Correct. I didn't hear. yeah, I said correct. Yep. You're right. Yep. Visa. 00:07:879 to 00:20:519. 14:66 Correct
14:00
Speaker 2
[REDACTED_PAYMENT_DIGITS] It's a visa card, correct? All right. Wow. what did he say again, Matt? All right. the exp. of the card, month and year [silence] [REDACTED_PAYMENT_DIGITS] all right. the security code [silence] [REDACTED_PAYMENT_DIGITS] what about billing uh zip code? [REDACTED_PAYMENT_DIGITS] um Matt uh
14:00
Speaker 1
Oh, do you have it or you want me to give it to you? Or do you have one on file? Well, that is correct. Yep. Okay. Thank you. [silence]
15:00
Speaker 2
the email that I'm going to use here. the one on the file here is MatthewBMudd@aol.com. Is that correct? okay. So that's the email address I'm going to put here on the payment transaction so that once I'm done processing the payments, I will send the receipt or invoice to the email address. okay. Okay. You're welcome. Okay. Matt, I'm going to process now the payments. I'll put you on hold for two minutes, okay? [silence]
15:00
Speaker 1
Yes. Okay, thank you. Yep.
18:00
Speaker 2
all right thank you for patiently waiting ma'am so i've already processed the payment transaction for the page support uh [REDACTED_PAYMENT_DIGITS] US dollars and i've already sent the invoice or receipt of the payment transaction to your email now let's proceed with your concern um I need you ma'am to your welcome I need you ma'am to gather all your notes in one place bring all your
18:00
Speaker 1
okay yeah okay so do you want me to plug them all in like now They could be like 10 feet away right that's close enough or like five feet rather Okay
19:00
Speaker 2
[DOWNWEIGHT] [silence] I need child nodes. ... near your parent node because [silence] since the parent node is showing a solid red [silence] it means your child nodes also are [silence] automatically disconnected. and we need to see [silence] ver if I [silence] what's the light color of their LED. It's better if it's closer. So that when we try to up can [silence]
19:00
Speaker 1
Well, and I hit reset on all those the child notes too, because I thought what I was reading, I had to reset all of them. Like it wouldn't it wouldn't do them. yeah okay huh okay yeah, that's all I got. there still kind of blinking
20:00
Speaker 2
[silence]
20:00
Speaker 1
Yep, with the ethernet cord. Yes. I'm sorry, can you repeat that? is it spectrum? Yeah. Yes, it's spectrum. Okay. Yes, that's I already had that happen and it's just a solid red light. And now, they, all the child notes just turned solid red.
21:00
Speaker 2
(upbeat music) uh, who's your internet service provider? Spectral. Um. So connect uh your parent node to spectral Modem. Gotcha. Okay. Uh, while waiting for the Okay, so let's, uh, since they're all showing, uh, steady or solid light, uh, red color under LED, let's do a reset on all those nodes.
21:00
Speaker 1
okay. for how long? I it off for a little bit because right now oh there we go. Okay, yeah, flash, right? okay. yeah, flash red it's Newton. okay. yeah. yep. I I let go and now it's still off right now. Well, now it's starting to turn like purplish looks like it's doing a little something.
22:00
Speaker 2
your parent node, Press and hold the reset button. Wait until its light is off. Once the light is off, you can release holding the reset button. Yeah, once its light is off. well, it will flash brightly and then it will pulse dimly three times and then it will flash brightly again until its led will turn off and that's the time you let go. So let's just wait for its light to establish. Awesome, now you do all the child nodes reset as well as
22:00
Speaker 1
Okay. Yeah, so the parent node is just blinking like purple. Yep. Yeah, I just did two of them. Now I'm doing a third. Yep. Yep. Yep, they're all. Okay, you're
23:00
Speaker 2
Okay, that's fine, uh, it's still, uh, starting or booting up, so let's leave your parent node, let's reset your child nodes first. All three. Mm-hmm. So, just like what you did with your parent node, press and hold their reset button. Once their light is off, let's go. Okay, that's good. So, we just need them, since your linksys products are all, uh, actually they're all the same, have the same, uh, light behavior. When they are, when you do a reset on them, uh, they will turn to a solid purple or solid,
23:00
Speaker 1
While my parent node was per- yeah the parent node was purple for a while and now it's solid red. [silence] yeah it's the develop develop setup 89s so click on that.
24:00
Speaker 2
pink lights so that's Mm-hmm uh that's okay can you check on your parent node product label sticker? There's a default Wi-Fi name of your parent node there. uh check the Wi-Fi name of your parent node, and then on your phone Wi-Fi settings, check on the list of available Wi-Fi network names. See if the Wi-Fi name of your parent node is shown there on the list. No, you don't have to click on that.
24:00
Speaker 1
automatically did and it says connected without internet. So sorry. it is, yup. but when I clicked on it, I mean, I didn't click on it. it automatically connected because I was connecting earlier. so it says, you know, it's underscored, yeah. and then it says connected without internet. Yup. they're they're all solid, all solid red.
25:00
Speaker 2
Uh, yeah. we just need to confirm if your parent node, uh, WiFi name is broadcast on your list. All right. All right, that's fine. Uh, can you check on your, uh, other child nodes? What's their status? Um, like. They're also solid white now. Check also on the product label sticker the WiFi name, and see if it also appears on your list of available WiFi network on your phone.
25:00
Speaker 1
Yes. Yep. They all do now. Yes. Yes. All three do show up. Yeah. Okay. Yep. Okay.
26:00
Speaker 2
So all three of them, the Wi-Fi name are broadcast, okay. That's good. It means they are properly reset since the Wi-Fi name is shown on your list of available Wi-Fi network. Now, to set these, uh, nodes you have, we can use the five-press method, which is the quickest way, or you don't need to use your phone. It's just pressing a button on your parent node or or setting up your nodes using the web UI interface. But it may take a while because you have to go to the web browser, open.
26:00
Speaker 1
I'll do the first option. I'll try option first. Yes. Okay. Okay. Can I change that afterwards? Okay. Okay. I just wanted to double check I could change it afterwards. Okay.
27:00
Speaker 2
on your phone, which method do you want to set up? There are five best methods. Yeah, let's do that. So that we will know also if your nodes really works fine. But I have to tell you, Matt, that once we set them up using the five press method, the Wi-Fi name and password that you're going to connect to will be the default Wi-Fi name and password of your parent node once we set them up using the five press method, okay? Alright. So, here's where to go. Yes, you can change that, uh, by logging into your router's web user interface. Okay. Now, uh, you can go to settings and then click
27:00
Speaker 1
Just one like that once, twice, three, you know, count to five times. Okay. Okay. I just did that and it it flashed a few times. So yes. And now it's yellow.
28:00
Speaker 2
Yeah, you can check. Um, what you're going to do, Mark is on your parent node, you just need to press the reset button five times. Yeah, press, yeah, just press, release, press, release. Within 5 s, that It'd be quick. Press the reset button five times under parent node. Okay. Okay, so let's just wait for itself to turn solid green or blue depending on the light behavior of your uh parent node. And you also check on your child nodes because if they're uh if the children are detected by your parent node, the
28:00
Speaker 1
Okay, right now my parent node is is blinking yellow. Nothing's happened to the child modules yet. Okay, and they're within three feet of each other. Should I try to get them closer? Oh, okay. Sorry. It just well, I was going to say turn green, and then now it's blinking yellow again. Okay.
29:00
Speaker 2
uh huh. No, no. Uh, you have to wait for your parent node, uh, to stop it's blinking. Um. So, since it turned green, it means uh, your parent node is already configured and the blinking yellow means uh it's, it's detecting your child node.
29:00
Speaker 1
Okay. Okay. Well, one of my child nodes is starting to blink. Okay. And my parent node turned red. Okay. Second child just started blinking. It's blinking red itself. Now. Oh, now the third one just started. The third child started to blink. Okay.
30:00
Speaker 2
It's still not detecting your child, uh, so let's just wait because it, it will take time for your parent node to communicate with your child nodes. Okay, that's good. It means it's responding to your parent node. So, let's just wait. Is your parent node still a solid red now? Okay, that's good. Okay, okay, that's good. Uh, so they're responding now to your parent node. So we just have to wait for them to talk.
30:00
Speaker 1
Sure. Okay. And that happens every once in a while where I to like unplug them and they kind of reconnect to it. But, Very rare.
31:00
Speaker 2
for all three of them to turn solid blue or solid green, but it's already a good sign that they're responding to your parent node. So your nodes are working fine. we just hope that the internet connection you have is stable so that your parent node will stay connected and online because once there's an interference or interruption or your internet connection is unstable, that's the reason your nodes light will change color.
31:00
Speaker 1
Okay, bye. Yeah. One of the child nodes flashed green, but now it's back to, well now, now that one's solid red. It hasn't flashed in a while. Two of them just turned green for about five seconds. And now now my nodes are solid red. The the child nodes are solid red and the parent is blinking red.
32:00
Speaker 2
So, okay. All right. So, first of all, I should introduce you. So you have you've seen Adolf Ludwig Mathias, right? Okay. When they turn solid green, actually, they're already added to your parent node. And the reason that they turn red is they get disconnected from your parent node or from the internet. And that's why your child node relies heavily to your parent node's connection. If your parent node stays solid red, then your child nodes will remain solid red or disconnected. And your parent node also relies heavily on your internet connection, so long as your internet provider is stable. And the modem is supplying internet to your parent node. Your parent node will get back online and connected, but if it doesn't get any internet supply, yes.
33:00
Speaker 1
Okay. Understood. And, but that's why I'm the whole reason I called is I, so I bought a my internet's working because I have a Wi, uh, Wi-Fi router, I bought a, like a, like a backup one and that works fine. If I connect that, it's a TP link wireless router. So I have, I have, I have internet, it's just for some reason it's not working with the parent node. Okay.
35:00
Speaker 2
Uh yes, because your parent node is flashing red, that means it's, uh, disconnected from your internet. It's not getting any data, uh, the transmission of data from your modem to your parent node. So, that's why, as I've mentioned, your parent node relies heavily on your internet connection stability. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. So. [silence]
35:00
Speaker 1
okay okay so Jeff so it
36:00
Speaker 2
Well, if it's really the parent node issue, we can try to disconnect your parent node from your modem and just use the other child node as the parent node. And see if we get a solid green light from them. But if so, you will have to remove your parent node, the WHW-03 from your modem, and then plug in one of the VLP. Yes, one of the...
36:00
Speaker 1
Plug it from power to? [silence] [silence] Or I don't have to [silence] Okay. [silence] Well, I mean, what I did, I didn't - [corections] I mean, I unplugged the parent node and turned it off and plug in one of the - [corections] Yeah, and I plug in one of the child nodes and now they're all they're all kind of blinking. [silence] They're blinking around. [silence] Okay. [silence] Okay. Is it if I plug in the parent node now, would not
37:00
Speaker 2
Yes, unplug it also because we can try to add this as such, the original parent node if you want. Okay. That's fine. Yes, yes, because we need to reset again all your VL because they were set up with your WHW03. So we need to reset them. Mm-hmm.
37:00
Speaker 1
the Google AD and could that possibly work as a child node, like, if I wanted to extend my Wi-Fi? And then a child node. Okay, so, so what, while that's yeah, okay, let's just say that was the cake, oh sorry, if that was the cake, sorry, if that was the case, like I have a parent node that's the issue and one of the child nodes can take, [silence]
38:00
Speaker 2
Yes, we can we can try to add the WHW03 as an extender or a child node to your VLP. That's why try to power on the original parent note so that we can also check isolate the issue if it's really the WHW03's problem or not. Once we set up Then it could be [silence] Yeah. So if it's really the WHW003, then your tree, the child node that you swap with your parent node is set up properly and it got got connected then, it only means that your parent node, your original parent node said an hardware issue or it could be a firmware issue. Maybe it's firmware is not updated. Yes. Yes. you can. Oh. You need to reset reset them all. Reset all four. Since we're going to set up. [silence]
38:00
Speaker 1
Okay. [silence] Okay. [silence] Okay. [silence] Okay, they're all currently, you know, went through that process where I held the button down until it went off.
40:00
Speaker 2
Yes, press and hold. Yes. Yes. Press and hold the reset button. Once the light is off or release. So you need to reset all the four nodes you have there, because we're going to start up again setting up your nodes.
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Speaker 1
But I should wait till that, they get stable again, right? Okay. Excuse me. Now, while this is happening, here's something I noticed and observation. My Spectrum modem, when I have it plugged in, [silence]
41:00
Speaker 2
All right. So, let's just wait for the, the light to turn a, solid red again. And then, refresh your phone Wi-Fi settings. Turn off and then turn on your Wi-Fi on your phone. And then check if the the default Wi-Fi name of your node is shown on the list of available Wi-Fi networks. Yes, you should wait for the light to stay solid or steady. [silence]
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Speaker 1
To a links device, I have a solid green light and a blinking orange light on the back of my spectrum modem. When I have the TP link plugged in and the internet is working, or when I have the TP wireless router plugged in, I just have a blinking orange light. Is there something spectrum could be doing that's not allowing me the links to connect or that's just something else happening? Have you ever heard of that?
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Speaker 2
Oh, it could be that your modem is already set up for internet via the TP-Link router.
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Speaker 1
Okay All right. So when I when I open Wi-Fi, because they're all I'm sorry. When I open Wi-Fi, and I have an all all the lights are red. I do have all four now. Yeah Should I hit that? Okay.
43:00
Speaker 2
Maybe it's, maybe it's already, like reserved the IP address for your TP-Link Router. That could be one of the reasons why your Linksys, your Linksys router is not getting disconnected for a while. Maybe it's, that could be it. Okay, that's good. Now, since the parent node now is the V P01, try to use the five-press method. Yeah, press the reset button on the router to release the IP address so that it can be assigned to the new Linksys router. Then try to search again and select it as a parent device.
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Speaker 1
Okay, I do have one. Before I do that, I just want to ask this. So, because my phone already set up and it, it, it says connected without internet, and that's the, it's right now, even the original parent mode, that's what my Wi-Fi just connected to. So, should I change that to the new parent mode? Understood. But it automatically connected. So, should I forget it then? Because it, it's already connected to the old parent node, like it's trying, like it's saying it's connected to it. [silence]
44:00
Speaker 2
parent node, the new parent node, press the reset button five times. Yeah. No, there's no need actually to connect to any Wi-Fi name because we're still setting up your nodes. So, there's no, yes that's fine. Because once we set up your new parent,
44:00
Speaker 1
okay okay all right, so I'll do the five button method now, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, now, mm-hmm. okay, okay, one, two, three, okay. I did that. yep, so that, so my new parent mode is flashing yellow, okay, okay.
45:00
Speaker 2
parent node, you will have to connect to your new parent node Wi-Fi name. So, let's set up first. Yeah. Press the reset button five times. So, [silence] you see that [silence] they always blink yellow. And blinking yellow means it's a weak signal they're getting. And it's also [silence] they're not [silence] yet connecting or finding your child nodes. So a yellow sign always means actually a weak signal. So it could be could not detect your child nodes or the internet connection, [silence] you know, child, any soon.
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Speaker 1
Um... So if that was the case, I'd have to call Spectrum and figure out how to do that. Yeah. And it always has worked, so. All right, right now they're all blinking red. So that means they're communicating, right?
47:00
Speaker 2
there's something called a MAC clone, that you need to clone the MAC address of your spectrum modem or the TP-Link router, so that your links is router will work with your spectrum modem. They didn't turn silly green.
47:00
Speaker 1
Not yet. No, they're all blinking red right now. And then my new parent mode is, you know, flashing red too. never, it turned green for a second and then started flashing. and then all of them started to flash.
48:00
Speaker 2
they didn't turn solid green. So let's just wait. Uh, usually to add nodes, it will take four up to six minutes. [silence] So let's give it a moment. Maybe it's still uh trying to connect with the other nodes. But if it's still stayed uh, [silence]
48:00
Speaker 1
And one of the child nodes blinked green. Now as back to blinking, oh, that's, the new parent mode is blinking red.
49:00
Speaker 2
If you notice the SYNC light on your Spectrum modem is either blinking red or completely off or red, there is an issue with the configuration of your spectrum modem.
49:00
Speaker 1
Okay. So so so two of them are solid red. One, one did. One child node just turns solid green, but the parent node is still, nope, now that one just started flashing. Nope. So so all three of the new child nodes are solid red, but the parent node is flashing red. And the rest should follow if that's the case.
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Speaker 2
So none of them turn solid green? So let's just, uh, move that your parent nodes above flashing red will turn solid green? Uh, Yeah, once the parent node turns solid green, uh, your child node will also turn back to solid green.
50:00
Speaker 1
But that means it's connected right? If it's solid green, that means it's connected. But that's what I don't understand because I haven't even gone through the app to try to connect it. To the, I know like earlier was making me put my phone next to it. Okay.
51:00
Speaker 2
Now, the reason you will partner. Mm-hmm. Yes. Yes, because. Since your two child nodes turned solid green a while ago, it means they were configured already and added. So, they turned solid red because your parent node is blinking red, so they get disconnected temporarily. But once your parent node is back to solid green, they will also turn back to a solid green light. So long as your child node or any of the nodes got a solid green light, even for a while, it only takes
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Speaker 1
Okay. The new parent mode. It's just blinking red. I mean, that's all it's doing automatically by plugging that into my modem. It should automatically. I don't have to do anything in the app or anything. It should automatically know I want internet and I have to be connected. Well, I have the linksys app and like I created a pas status. How do I disable? Well, I have disabled the iPhone.
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Speaker 2
it means that they're already configured or added as child node to your parent node, so you just have to hope that your parent node will turn back to a solid green light so that all your child nodes also will turn back to a solid green light. so what do you mean on the app?
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Speaker 1
word like that's how I used to do everything. And it on there says that up new device. And it, so that's what I thought like I was trying to do that because I, you know, myself I, I ended up, you know, resetting all the nodes, the parent node. And like I would try to set it up and it would, you know, tell me to connect to that one, like via Wi-Fi through my phone. And it told me to hold the phone real close.
53:00
Speaker 2
Okay. Okay. Okay. Yes, that's the, that's the process when setting up using the Linksys app. You would have to connect your phone to the default wi-fi name of the parent node. That's the usual process. But with the five press method, you don't have to connect to any default wi-fi name because you only need to press the reset button five times and once it's set up That's the time that you connect to the Wi-Fi name of the parent node. So it's different. Um, and I also have to tell you Matt that since your product is model WHW03 and VLP 01 and this VLP 01 it's actually the same model as the WHW01 which is still the same model, uh, our sisters with the WHW03 models um. And there was, uh, there was an update of, uh, the WHW03 and WHW01 models were in, uh, the update made some changes that when setting this Linksys Router, um, you can no longer set it up using the, the Linksys app because of the removal of the
53:00
Speaker 1
[silence] Okay so still blinking red. Yep. Still blinking red. But I do have
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Speaker 2
of cloud services. [silence] So the access or the setting up of these models [silence] . is no longer[silence]supported by the Lynx app. So, you can no longer set up your Lynx Produkte model WHW03 or or 01 or the VLP01 using the Lynx app because it's, no longer supported. So you can only set them up using the Wi-Fi method, which is the quickest way to set up an AdNode or to the web browser or web user interface. Okay. So, are there still blinkies [silence]links?
55:00
Speaker 1
So now I have another question, because I was at Walmart a couple months ago and it was on clearance. I did buy their brand new in the box, the links to Wi-Fi six mesh router. I'm trying to see the model, like if I try these things, I have four new ones in the box. They are the MX20 WH. Would they work? Like, would they all work together if I start all over and use these MX20 WHs?
56:00
Speaker 2
[silence] hello? [silence] my hmm as [silence] I've as I've said [silence]
56:00
Speaker 1
Okay. Okay. Well, okay.
57:00
Speaker 2
Math, since we already tried the WHW03 and it will connect and turn solid red, but for a while, it will turn solid red. And we also tried the V01 and it's still the same result. So I think it has something to do with the configuration of your spectrum model. But you could also try to use the MX20 which you have. If it could connect and turn solid green and stay solid green for the longest time. If it does, then it only means that it could be a hardware issue with your nodes, your four nodes or a firmware issue. But if your MX20 still have the same result,
57:00
Speaker 1
Okay. Okay. Okay. Now, I guess so I understand that, but then my question would be, it was, there was two in the box of the MX2-0, wh. Yes, can you hear me? Sorry about that. So the MX 2-0-wh, two of them came in the box. If I get these set up, could the other ones, because they're still links, this and they're still the nodes, could those work as child? [silence]
58:00
Speaker 2
that it will turn solid blue and then it will turn back to a blinking red or solid red then it only means that It only means that it has something to do with the configuration settings of your modem that it was already set up with your TP-Link router okay Hello
58:00
Speaker 1
I would nodes for this the the newer ones I have that is possible okay okay and firmware that just means there there's nothing I if it's a firmware issue then there's nothing I could do with them right they're just no longer work is that correct okay okay okay okay okay okay okay
59:00
Speaker 2
Yes you could you can add them as child nodes it's possible but I have to tell you that uh it could they could be added but if they're they could not be added then it could also mean that it's a formal issue of those nodes but you can add them. Yeah uh Yes. So but you can add them those nodes you have the four nodes to your MX 20 FH. [silence].
59:00
Speaker 1
Okay. So, all right. So, I guess, since it's still flashing red, then it's more than likely my modem is not accepting it. So, I should call spectrum. Yeah. Okay. And hypothetically, hypothetically, that could be it. That could be the issue. So, if that was the case, then and I wanted to use my original parent router, then I would have to do, I would have to do what you told me, like, I would have to reset the nodes and make the parent router and do that whole process. So,
60:00
Speaker 2
consider call your Spectrum try try to configure uh um uh the settings of your modem that it will uh allow the linksys router
60:00
Speaker 1
again, right? And it should work if they're able to configure it. Okay. Okay. And I'll remember. Okay. And the five buttons, the five setup will should work, right, that'll. Okay. Well, thank you. I mean, like, I said, it's just blinking red and it's been like this for 15 minutes now, at least 10 minutes. Well, then it's more than likely it's done. All right. I'll call Spectrum. Okay, I'll call Spectrum. Okay. Hold on. Let's try this again. You'll click on the set up button for five seconds. Go ahead and try it, and let's see what happens. Do we get an error?
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Speaker 2
Yes. Yes. Once... yeah, if, once they do configure it, uh, you will need to reset all your nodes, again. Every time you set up, you have to do a reset. Okay? Yes. You're welcome. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, yes and, Matt, uh, since you also have the MX-20, you can also first try that before you call spectrum. And if you still have the same or negative result, then, uh, that's the time you call
61:00
Speaker 1
All right. So, can I do that while you're on the phone? Do I still have the hour or that How that you sent the email. No, we've been on the phone for six. But you I never paid until you sent me the receipt at 4:05. That's when I got the receipt. That's when I paid. So I thought the hour started when I paid. That Okay. So, if I So I guess to unplug everything and then just
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Speaker 2
So, uh, uh, spectrum because it's really, uh, configuration settings with the modem you have. So you can also try first your MX 20, OK? OK. It's already, uh, the, uh, it already exceeded the threshold of 60 minutes. So, yeah, I can. No. But, uh, we can, uh, I can extend the time, uh, for the MX 20.
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Speaker 1
Plug in the, the, I'll just do one for now, and just plug in that, and just see if that works. Okay. All right. And I'll plug the ethernet cable directly into it, right? It has four slots. It doesn't matter, right? I would assume. Oh, yup, you're right, yeah. Yup. Okay. I plugged it into that one.
63:00
Speaker 2
Yes, let's just uh let's just do yeah, let's just use one because it will all be the same if. Yeah, plug the MX 20 into the Internet port, so there should be a yellow label on the part indicated for Internet and also plug the other MX 20 since you mentioned you have two of them.
63:00
Speaker 1
Okay. [silence] So the first one that what I'm calling the parent one because there's two identical, I plug that in and it's, you know, it's loading up, it's blinking blue. [silence] Yep, now it's... Okay. Now, so that, well, the parent one is now solid, like a pink.
64:00
Speaker 2
you have so that we could verify if it will work with your mx20 or if not then it's really a modem configuration issue okay that's normal when you plug in a node it will start to blink it means it's still booting up [silence]
64:00
Speaker 1
Okay. Now the, so what do I, the second one, just wait, wait on that to turn a certain color or should I? Okay. It's solid Yeah, like a pink, pink, purple. Okay. [silence]
65:00
Speaker 2
[silence] So solid pink means it's ready for setup.You need to wait for the second MX20 to turn solid pink or purple. The MX20 that's connected to your modem is solid purple or pink? Okay. So it means it's ready for setup. So you need to have the same color with your other MX20.
65:00
Speaker 1
And that one I plugged in probably two minutes later, so it's probably, you know, it's a little behind. Okay, they're both solid pink. [silence] Okay.
66:00
Speaker 2
All right, uh, do the five best method. Press the parent node reset button five times.
66:00
Speaker 1
That's currently like flashing white. Oh, it just had a blue. Now it's back to white. And the second one hasn't changed yet. That's still solid pink.
67:00
Speaker 2
So it's still uh not responding. Uh it will respond once it's started to blink its light.
67:00
Speaker 1
Oh, it started to blink. The second one. And the parent node right now is back to solid blue. Well, now it went back to red. A parent node. So the parent node went back to red.
68:00
Speaker 2
Okay, that's good. So that's good. If it turns solid blue, it means it's connected and online. It's successfully configured. [silence] [silence] [silence] [silence] [silence]
68:00
Speaker 1
The child note is flashing red. OK. Yeah, because right now the apparent one that's plugged into the modem is solid red and the other one.
69:00
Speaker 2
So let's give it a moment. If your parent node, uh still keep blinking red and doesn't turn back to a solid green. uh it only means that it's really uh a configuration issue with your modem. Hmm. So, uh it's really an issue with your modem. Uh maybe it's uh configured to to set up only the TP link router you have. So, you may have to contact your [silence] modem [silence] provider. [silence] And say that, hey, uh your modem, uh forever [silence] war. [silence] And as you can see, my uh device is blinking red, uh uh and not turning back to green. [silence] This is what the troublemaker told me [silence] that I should report this to you guys. [silence] Okay. So usually, uh the uh the uh routers, they have to be set up uh and you have to follow this uh provision that he has, right? So it confuses the uh the LDI now. [silence] Thank you.
69:00
Speaker 1
Okay. The, Oh, yeah, I, so the, the child one just turned blue, but then now it's solid red. So, they're, both are solid red. So that's, so it's, not, all right. So, the internet modem is, okay.
70:00
Speaker 2
you see, your, so we have confirmed from these, um, troubleshooting steps we've done, Matt, that your nodes are all working fine and they can be configured, they can be set up, because they are turned solid green, solid blue, the only issue is that they will
70:00
Speaker 1
Okay, understood. Okay. Well, thank you for everything. I'm glad we tried this time, so. [silence] Okay, yes. [silence] Okay. Can I just repeat it back to you and then
71:00
Speaker 2
disconnect from your internet connection because your modem configuration may have already set it up or locked itself to your TP Link router uh-huh you're welcome, so, if yeah, so if the uh, the spectrum modem can fix that configuration issue with your modem, then you can do the uh, setup method because it's easy. They are resetting your nodes and doing the F5 method, I think you're already familiar with that, because if you call us back again, you may need to uh, apply again for the paid connect service if you want me to walk you through again the steps.
71:00
Speaker 1
So, if I have everything unplugged, I plug the parent node in to the modem, have, yeah. Okay, and have all the have all, yeah, well, yeah, and have all the nodes on too, right, and then reset all them. Okay. Okay. And then once the reset's done, then click five times on the parent node and then they all should if everything's working, they all should be like a blue or a green.
72:00
Speaker 2
Sure. Yeah. Yeah modem make sure that the part for it is the Internet part the one which has the yellow label and then do our reset. Yeah before before.
72:00
Speaker 1
... if the internet's working. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Now, we'll, will they, yeah, well, the, the, the new ones I have, the MX20WH, are they still supported on the, the new, they are still supported on the app, the, the newer ones I have, the MX20WH, will the app support those? Yeah.
73:00
Speaker 2
Yeah, blue or green? Yeah. Once your spectrum is all already configured by your modem, then your nodes will get connected. All right. You are welcome. Thank you for calling linksys. Yes. [silence] Uh, I think the MX20 is still supported by the linksys app. But, uh,
73:00
Speaker 1
Okay. Okay, thank you. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay, good enough. Thank you so much. Okay, I appreciate all your help. Thank you. Thank you, you too Matt. Appreciate your help. Thank you.
74:00
Speaker 2
You cannot add the WHW03 using the Linksys app as they are no longer supported by the Linksys app. If you want to add them, then you will have to use the 5 press method on your MX20. But setting up your MX20 with your router MX20, you can use the Linksys app. Once you set it up using the Linksys app, then use the 5 press method to add your WHW or VLP01. You're welcome. Thank you for calling. You're welcome. It's my pleasure to assist you. installation. And thank you for calling Linksys. Once again, this is Eyes. Take care, Matt. Have a great day and goodbye.
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