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Call Start
2026-07-08 23:24
Duration
61m 21s
Contact
Shirley Newby
Issue Type
WiFi Connectivity
V2 Outcome
Unresolved
V2 Band
Needs Improvement

Agent & Case Context

Agent
Eric Marbella
HappyFox Case
#TE00133653
Support Country
Other / Unmapped
Product Family
RANGE EXTENDERS
CSAT
Sentiment Trajectory
Ticket subject: RE7350_Range Extender Stopped Working
Transcript quality flagged: the ASR/quality-validation pipeline detected and excluded unreliable transcript segments from grading (5 hallucinated segments, 3 too-garbled-to-score segments). Excluded from aggregate KPIs — treat remaining scores and transcript with caution.

V1 Rubric Scores

Resolution2.00/5
Accuracy1.00/5
Communication2.00/5
Protocol1.00/5
Efficiency2.00/5
Overall1.6/5

V2 Rubric Scores

Resolution0.62/5
Technical0.00/5
Communication2.50/5
Ownership2.50/5
EscalationN/A
Customer Exp1.79/5
Overall24.8% (-7.2)

V2 Grader Summary

Agent made progress by identifying signal degradation as likely factor and proposing structured follow-up, but failed to complete core diagnostics (speed test, WAN check) or resolve issue. Technical inaccuracies present (admin password claim) but not derailing. Communication and ownership showed partial engagement. Outcome represents partial progress rather than full resolution or abandonment.

V1 Case Analysis

Customer reports Linksys range extender allows basic web access but streaming apps (Prime Video, HBO, Xbox) buffer or fail. Agent could not access router admin, incorrectly stated default password is always 'admin', gave wrong IP guidance, and failed to collect model/serial. Promised follow-up email pending floor plan. No resolution achieved.

Troubleshooting Steps
  • Attempted to access router admin via 192.168.1.1
  • Discussed default admin password (incorrectly stating it is always 'admin')
  • Requested extender IP address and floor plan
  • Suggested possible reset/reconfiguration pending more information
Key Observations
  • Agent never collected the router or extender model/serial number, a critical protocol failure for product-specific support.
  • Provided factually incorrect information: default admin password is NOT always 'admin' — SPNM/LinksysNOW devices use the Wi-Fi password on the label (per universal_password_login.md and linksys_now_login_admin.md).
  • Gave incorrect IP address guidance: referenced '192.168.21B-12' (invalid IP) and 'Ovislink' as the main device (not a Linksys product).
  • Failed to perform any basic troubleshooting (reboot, reset, wired test, signal strength check) despite customer reporting a sudden change in behavior.
  • Misidentified the core issue — customer reported a sudden failure after previously working, suggesting a configuration or firmware issue, not just placement.
  • Did not verify whether the extender was actually receiving adequate signal from the main router, a fundamental step in range extender diagnostics.
  • Spent excessive time on filler and vague explanations without progressing toward a fix.
Positive Highlights
  • Agent acknowledged customer frustration and attempted to maintain a calm tone.
  • Offered to send a follow-up email, showing intent to continue support.
Agent Errors / Gaps
  • Failed to collect product model and serial number, violating standard protocol for technical support.
  • Provided materially inaccurate technical information: claimed default admin password is always 'admin' (contradicts KB: SPNM6x/LN1600 use Wi-Fi password on label).
  • Gave invalid IP address instructions (e.g., '192.168.21B-12') and referenced non-Linksys device 'Ovislink' as the main router.
  • Did not perform any basic troubleshooting steps (reboot, reset, wired speed test, signal check) despite customer reporting a sudden service degradation.
  • Failed to diagnose the actual issue — customer confirmed the extender worked perfectly until June 13th, indicating a change in environment, firmware, or configuration, not just placement.
  • Did not guide customer to check extender LED status or signal strength, a fundamental diagnostic step.
  • Did not suggest checking for firmware updates or resetting the extender, both standard troubleshooting steps per KB.

V2 Indicator Ratings

Resolution
R1 Not Met Issue actually resolved conf 95%
Agent ended call with request for customer to email a floor plan and deferred further action; issue not resolved.
R2 Partially Met Diagnostic thoroughness conf 85%
Agent attempted to access modem UI and identified extender as potential bottleneck but skipped speed test, WAN status check, and direct modem test.
R3 Partially Met Correct resolution path conf 80%
Agent pursued reasonable path given access limitations (modem UI, floor plan for signal mapping) but did not complete best-effort troubleshooting for OOW scenario.
Technical Accuracy
T1 Not Met Technically accurate info conf 90%
Agent failed to perform speed test or wired-direct test to modem as required by universal_speed_below_plan.md for speed/buffering issue.
T2 Not Met Appropriate tools / resources used conf 90%
Agent relied on verbal description of buffering without using speed tests (fast.com/speedtest.net) as primary diagnostic tool per KB.
T3 Not Met No misinformation conf 100%
Agent stated 'usually it's admin by default' for router password, which is incorrect for SPNM60 series (default is WiFi password per KB).
Communication
C1 Partially Met Clear & professional language conf 80%
Agent framed goal (accessing modem UI) but call flow disrupted by long silences and repetition; regained partial control via floor plan as next step.
C2 Partially Met Confirmed understanding conf 75%
Agent used some jargon (e.g., 'HCP server') but simplified concepts like signal loss through walls; confirmed understanding when customer said 'making sense'.
Customer Ownership
O1 Partially Met Ownership & empathy conf 85%
Agent took ownership by proposing follow-up plan and offering to send email, but deferred resolution to future contact rather than completing troubleshooting.
O2 Partially Met Proactive follow-through conf 80%
Agent set next step (draw and email floor plan) and confirmed availability for follow-up, though no firm timeline given.
O3 Not Applicable Closure confirmation conf 100%
No prior case history referenced or observable; this appears to be first contact.
Escalation Judgment
E1 Not Applicable Correct escalation decision conf 100%
No escalation performed and none warranted — issue was diagnostic and ongoing, not requiring immediate L2/L3 handoff.
E2 Not Applicable Escalation prep & handoff conf 100%
No escalation occurred, so execution cannot be assessed.
Customer Experience
X1 Partially Met Customer effort minimised conf 85%
Agent expressed empathy ('I understand clearly', 'I appreciate your cooperation') and acknowledged frustration, though some responses were repetitive.
X2 Partially Met Tone & rapport conf 75%
Agent adapted to customer’s emotional state by validating concerns and pacing explanations, though tone became circular at times.
X3 Partially Met Overall experience conf 70%
Agent asked customer to draw a floor plan — an added effort — but avoided re-asking previously provided info and offered to guide future steps.
Call Transcript82 turns · 101 lines
Speaker 1
This is Linksys technical support calling. This call is recorded for quality assurance. Please hold as we connect you to a Linksys specialist. Hello. This is Eric from Linksys Customer assurance team. May speak with Shirley? I'm fine. Thank you so much for asking. How about you? Are you able to contact? Okay, thank you. Okay, okay. So, are you able to contact your internet service provider and they already provided you their credentials to access their modem? Okay. So, if you have that then we can reaccess the setup page of your modem but, if I may ask, were you able to access it, before losing your connection? No? Yes. Can you share the modem information? Brand of it? Then we can help you from there. So, do you mind if you send that over?
00:00
Speaker 2
[silence] Here's the you gen er. How are you. [silence] I'm doing good. Oh, yeah, I got the uh I got the number, but I haven't been able to [silence] I don't know how to get in. I looked at your instructions right there. Nah, I'm waiting for you. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
00:00
Speaker 1
okay, so we'll try, okay, now, by the way, again, this call is recorded for quality assurance purposes, okay, so, okay, so let me just double check my notes here, I believe the IP address was, let me just check what IP address we are using last time, okay, okay, so, open up a browser and make
01:00
Speaker 2
I know they just they just. Tommy back and uh just gave me this number and they said this should go through fine um so I I actually had the number and I was entering in the wrong digits okay yeah yeah is that a problem yeah
01:00
Speaker 1
Sure, before you open up a browser, are we connected to your SSID, which is just OBIS-4C12? Not the underscore EXT because that's your range extender. Let's access first, let's access first, the modem, okay? Let's connect first to OBIS-4C12. Are you near the modem right now? you're mobile phone. OK, thank you. Make sure that you're near your modem router first. OK. OK. no worries, take your time, be extra careful there. OK You mentioned something Shirley I was actually like documenting earlier huh what was uh okay okay silence If you're in Europe 5 G it's a different uh carrier what we wanted to connect to.
02:00
Speaker 2
[silence] Do you want me a bit slower? Oh, no, I was talking to the dog. [silence] Just kind of walking up to get close. [silence] Okey. [silence] Be quiet. [silence] Okey. I'm on my 5G network. Is that okay? Are you okay? Okay, I got it. Uh-huh. Yeah, ok. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. Look. What'd you find out, Mike about my IP? 192.168.21. Uh-huh. Okay. Yeah, 192.168.21B-12. That is the public IP. Um yeah. and 192.168.21B-128. Yeah. [silence] That's the
04:00
Speaker 1
thank you and the router is it still the same as 1 92.1 I think. thank you. okay so let's now open up a browser and let us now type on the URL 1 92.1 6 8.1 1. 1 92. okay 1 6 8 1.1
06:00
Speaker 2
we can only see sound? one n I just go slow and I am sunk. One 9, 2. Ya. Got it. Okay.
06:00
Speaker 1
okay, so you're.. are you now prompted with the are you prompted now with the login screen for your OBIS- yes amazing, it's great! okay please type in whatever whatever your..
07:00
Speaker 2
What is the Wi-Fi password? Yeah, I'm for a password. Yeah, it's pasting my password down. And I'm getting that B-R-2-2-5-0 B-R-2-2-5-0 okay
07:00
Speaker 1
[silence] Are we now inside? Okay. Oh, okay. Is there like a counter there like how many times you access because if you're if your internet service provider from dialogue provided you with the username and password, usually if you're accessing your router setup page, the username is admin by default, usually or root then or user.
08:00
Speaker 2
I hope I got this right. Okay. No, not yet. I- it says, authentication please. Please input again. Nope. Uh, it's Welcome to your Wi-Fi. Hi, I bring gateways. Um, okay. And then it's- [silence]
08:00
Speaker 1
Um, actually, uh, that, that authentication is actually just for you to make sure that you are really the, the right user accessing the setup page, okay? Then are we in site now of the setup page of your device? Okay, thank you. Uh, follow whatever password you have they have provided, if it's uppercase, lowercase, follow everything. It's case sensitive. Yes. Uh huh.
09:00
Speaker 2
Is this, is, when we find your password on the Y-H six hybrid label, okay. Okay, okay. So I'm doing this right. What they're asking me is to authenticate what I just put in. I guess. Yeah. Right. Just, I'm just doing that right now. Mmm. Yeah, exactly. Yes. It just takes me a minute.
09:00
Speaker 1
Usually it's admin by default, okay? Unless, uh, that's, that's usually by default, uh, if you base it on our links as devices, but if whatever, uh, your dialogue, ICS provides.
10:00
Speaker 2
Oops, made a mistake on the password $0. Oh, user name. What was the user name? Adam!
10:00
Speaker 1
Try admin. Try Ad Min first, okay? Or maybe your dialed ISP might have misunderstood what you wanted to ask. Maybe they provided you the wireless settings instead of the Admin username and password. It might be a possibility only, but don't worry, okay? We'll try first. We may be able to access. Okay. So, Shirley? Okay, Shirley. If there's like a prompt, I just don't want to for you to experience like a like lock out, okay? Because, for security purposes. Okay. Okay. So, after a minute
11:00
Speaker 2
Okay, I didn't need to provide it even that okay. after we try. Okay. I just I don't know why why they just said it was wrong. Oh, please try again after one minute. Okay so log in fail three times please wait again for one minute. Yeah. No, they didn't lock me out. What they said was login login fail three times. Please try again after one minute. And I just I don't know
11:00
Speaker 1
Yeah, don't worry. Don't worry. Okay, it happens. It might be just like a misunderstanding only, okay? It happens. Okay, like, Mm. It's okay. If it's still the same issue, Shirley? Don't worry, okay? This is what we need to do as our next step. Okay. But, uh, well, trying to find for the password, how was your range extender? Is it still solid blue? Is it still solid blue? Okay. So, so actually, our goal actually last time is, uh, for me to properly check the actual software of your device, okay? For me to really make sure if everything is.
12:00
Speaker 2
[KEEP_UNCERTAIN] why would they? I'm just trying to think of it. Yeah. Well, I'm looking for something on my. Like I've written a lot of stuff down and I'm just wondering if under Okay, I'm not sure which one. Yeah. Just looking for something. Yes. No, I'm not worried. I just get upset when I, when I goof. Oh, sorry. That was links key. Links. Okay, where are we? Yeah, that's what I'm looking for. Yep. Yep. Right. yeah yeah right yeah right [silence] right okay okay I got it okay um the Pat got the password um it says usern order router router admin so okay use your [silence]
12:00
Speaker 1
Okay. Okay. Okay, thank you. And for the password, Oh, just like, uh, Well, you had it first set up, correct? The last February of this year. That's great that, uh, you have the, um, that you noted them, okay? That's good, okay, just follow everything. If it asks you to wait for a minute after a wrong password attempt, just yes, let's wait for a minute, then if it's ready, okay? Then let's attempt again to access your wireless gateway web user interface.
14:00
Speaker 2
router is router, admin, that's the, uh, thing that I put in in the word that we just put in an admin, admin, and now it says router, admin, so, I had written all this down back in February, so I had to kind of go back. Um, yeah, that's right. When we first set everything up, yeah, Yep. And we're sure. Yeah, okay. Um, we waited a minute. Do you think? Right. Okay.
14:00
Speaker 1
It's a long password. Uh usually, if it's copy paste, I also encountered issue with a copy paste because sometimes when we copy paste there's another character word we add. Yeah. Yeah because sometimes the copy paste will add another character, especially it space. It will be counted. And it will not be the same. [silence]
15:00
Speaker 2
[KEEP_UNCERTAIN] okay. I don't know why it always is that. I don't want a video. I want to I want to copy it. Okay, there we go. No, copying and pasting. Now, I found everything. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't I didn't do it. Yeah, I didn't do it. I I I've got to do it manually. It won't take a copy of paste.
15:00
Speaker 1
[silence] [silence] [silence] Mhm not necessarily because just like with our router, we have different passwords, okay? Password for accessing the router setup page, which is the router administrator password. There's a password for the Wi-Fi and a password for, you know, if you have an account, so there's a lot. But if you have labeled them that this password, user name and password is for your wireless modem router, then that's the one that we need to follow. okay. Okay. Don't worry. Shirley. Since we also have devices, okay? And I don't want you to experience a lock up, okay? Because it may not like show there. Because ours is really clear. Like, for example, when you have a failed attempt on accessing our router setup page, for example, you have five attempts that you have to use, but if you're able to use those, you'll be lock up and it will then entail to perform a reset and reconfigure for you to really access it again. But we don't want that to happen to you, okay? So, um this is what we need to do, Shirley. I know everything is working fine as of the moment since we had it uh two days ago, okay? And I appreciate your help. So,
16:00
Speaker 2
It's telling me the authorization failed. But they didn't give - they didn't this time. They didn't give me uh uh Okay. Okay. Close. [silence]
17:00
Speaker 1
The only thing that I wanted to do was to really check the settings of your range extender. Okay? But since everything seems to be working fine as of the moment. So, when you have the time, okay, you can just call again, uh, uh, dialogue and maybe there's like a misunderstanding. Maybe they provided you with, uh, settings. So, uh, try to ask them like, uh, Linksys was trying to access the web interface of, uh, Ovislink, because that's not their device. The main purpose only is for Linksys to really get what's the new IP address that was assigned to their Linksys range extender. And if we, we get that, then at least we'll be able to target the particular device, which is the range extender to for the Linksys technician to access it and view the settings.
18:00
Speaker 2
sorry okay fine okay right right right right right right [silence] right right OK. Right? Mmm. OK. Right. Right. Right. Right. OK. Yes. OK. OK. I can do that. OK. Perfect. Perfect. OK. Let me... OK. Oh, no problem. Oh, yeah. Let's do this. All right. Okay. Okay. Okay. Nope. Nope. That's it. Um, okay, so we're just going to follow these instructions. Right? Okay. Yeah, you okay? That's cool. Okay.
18:00
Speaker 1
OK. And pretty much that's it. So in the meantime, um, again, this is not, not really like, uh, crucial, okay? Uh, like really needed. Okay? But if you have more like extra time, you may contact your Internet service provider and gather their, uh, credentials. And you may be able to ask for their help. Like for example, uh, can you assist me or now really to access it because I might typing it the wrong way and they can verify the password that you're typing in and once you're able to access, then, uh, that's a proof and you can then edit whatever username and password you have there on your notes so that you can able to correct it the right way. OK. No, we cannot because, uh, we tried that one last time. [silence]
21:00
Speaker 2
Okay? Okay. Right Yeah right? Right Okay. Okay Okay so we're not going to do anything else then are we going to check for firmware or anything? [silence]
21:00
Speaker 1
But we don't have the IP address yet of your range extender that was assigned by your Ovis link because the Ovis link is the main device. That's the HCP server. It's the one providing IP address to any devices connected to it. If IP address, you are correct. Yes, because then if you have that, that's the one that you we will access. Instead of extender.linksys.com, we will open up a browser, but you will be connecting to the extender name, which is the Ovis_4C12_EXT. So that you are connected [silence] to the IP address of the range extender. And you can access it either through the browser. [silence] [silence] either through looping to it through the browser, [silence] linking directly to the IP address. [silence] And then once you're [silence] in the local browser, you may check the setup you can go with the online setup, but again, it's a little kind of annoying. [silence] Yeah. [silence] So, [background noise] if with the IP dot, you have to go to the local browser, right? [silence] [background noise] [silence] Okay.
22:00
Speaker 2
Oh, okay. Right? Okay, so I need to get in there and when I get in there, I'm looking for the, the IP address for the range extender for the iPhone XS? Okay. And then what do I do after that?
22:00
Speaker 1
connecting to the RNG standard then access its IP address because the
23:00
Speaker 2
Okay. Okay. Okay. Come on. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. There's. The thing is, my concern right now is it half connecting, because it will bring up YouTube. It will bring up Chrome. bring up the Play Store, Spotify. I'm trying to look at it right now. It will not play anything on Prime. It will not play anything on my reads or my H box. which is movies. And then when I go to connect, when I, you know, when you go to the open up a browser and we go to check, it says it's not connected. So it's connecting, but it's not connecting. Do you understand what I mean? I feel like it's
23:00
Speaker 1
Mmm. I see. So, uh, please, uh, confirm. So, you are able to go to YouTube or any other websites, but, ok. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. [silence]
24:00
Speaker 2
It's half connecting. I can go to YouTube, I can go to Google Chrome, I can go to Google, I can surf the web, I can turn on Spotify, I can get into the Play Store. But when I go to get into my TV service or Prime Video or my HBO which is all movies as well, I can get into my TV. I can actually get into my TV, but after a long length of time it'll bring up it'll bring up the program. But every maybe every line after after, you know, I'll maybe get through a half a minute and then it'll just start buffering, buffering, buffering and then it'll come back on.
24:00
Speaker 1
Okay. Okay. mm-hmm. Okay. Okay, then if that's the case, because your TV is similar as your mobile phone. Similar as a laptop, and you need to make sure on which network you are connected to. Okay, because it might be a possibility. Because it might be a possibility. Uh.
25:00
Speaker 2
But if I go to play a movie, I can't play a movie on my Prime. I can't play a movie on my TV or my Xbox. Um, but I can play movies on my YouTube and everything else. I can the offering. It's absolutely perfect. So I'm wanting to know is it half connecting and the other half not connecting when we wait. If we if I go to go like if I go to go um on the website, um it tells me I'm not connected to the extender. Does that make any sense? Right? Right? Okay, I already, I have. I'm on that. I'm I've, I've I've, okay. Um, I'm just gonna bring it up here and I will check the network. Um, hold on. [silence] [silence] [silence]
25:00
Speaker 1
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Uh huh. It says Prime Video, right? That was Prime Video, right? Don't you? Uh huh. It says Prime Video, right? That was Prime Video, right? You asked me. How about... How about Netflix? How about Netflix? Netflix. Do you have Netflix app in your TV?
26:00
Speaker 2
if I go Spotify does work, uh, if I go into my TV service, uh, when I'm clicking on live TV right now, and, uh, go to my favorite channels, it's just right now it's buffering to bring up. Um, okay, I can bring up my favorites on my TV service. And it'll say I can play it. Um, pardon me? This is yeah, private video, I can't play movies on. I can't play movies on HBO, uh, because I get that all. I Netflix, Netflix I get, um, through my radical Smarters TV, it's a service in the state.
27:00
Speaker 1
Is it Netflix? Is it in Netflix? Netflix works. Okay. So
28:00
Speaker 2
Hey everything. I know they like. I'm opening the Netflix. Uh where are we? Gotta get to the end. Uh okay. Uh that's good. And I'm going to try and play something. Okay, I'm going to play now. Okay go on. Okay and I'm just offering. Uh be safe. Um maybe that's going to come up. Okay, my movie is coming up, but I don't know why it's going to continue. Uh usually here's buffering. Okay, okay, that movie did come up and it's not buffering. So I'm getting into my movies and I think I can get into all the series as well. Let's see what happens here. Yeah. Yeah, that works as long as it reads my cue.
28:00
Speaker 1
Okay. Uh, let's go back to your Prime Video. Let's go back to your Prime Video because we haven't done that. So, Netflix is working. Let's go back to your Prime Video, okay? And you also mentioned that, uh, Hbox. HBox. uh, doesn't network as well. HBox. Okay. This is not the this is not the HBO, right? This, uh, Hbox. HBO, Yeah, like, something like it has torrent, right? Like it's also updates. Okay. How about HBO? Are we able to play HBO?
29:00
Speaker 2
see, it's in my TV service, I get it through my TV service. so, into, open my video, okay? okay, oh, okay, where's prime? that's what I'm, that's what I'm looking for. okay, I think that's okay, Prime Video, okay, let's see if that works. yes, that doesn't work. I tried that last night. I'd be surprised if it comes up. okay, okay, let's see. bib? no. no, it's a movie, it's a streaming movie service. okay, okay. okay, okay, I'm just joking.
29:00
Speaker 1
uh, yeah, uh, yeah, let's try it out, because, uh, we're, we're testing.
30:00
Speaker 2
[KEEP_UNCERTAIN] Uh, hold on. I have to go back there. No. Um, let's see. I just have to. Uh, OK. OK. Uh-oh. OK. Uh-oh. OK. Okey. OK. Uh-oh. OK. OK, now I'm buffering. OK, it brings stuff up. Just gonna try something here and see what happens. OK. It's buffering. It's buffering and let's see if it'll bring it. OK, and this is what happens. Uh-oh. Yeah. Right, isn't it? Uh-oh. Um, I pick. Uh-oh. Uh-uh. Uh-huh. right now I'm just saying regular movies yeah okay yeah Okay. Like I said, the H box, even the H box, I feel, I don't get. Go ahead. Uh-huh. Right? Right? No more than about 25 feet. 30 feet. The living room.
30:00
Speaker 1
I just do was. Okay? That's okay. No wonder why, when we check that last time, okay? Correct me if I'm wrong. I mean, when we turn off the range extende, your mobile phone on that exact location of your, your phone, your range extender, you're getting one out of three bar. Out of three bar. Out of three bar. From your mobile phone. Okay. So, it is similar idea with your phone. Okay. For example, if your mobile phone is on the same location or in the same room, same room,
34:00
Speaker 2
the living room. okay the living room is an open room. there's no wall for it to go through unless it's going out the back. um, I gotta look at it as I'm coming through cause it's all five TV anyways. um, okay so it's going through at least 2 walls. Yeah. Right. that's right. Right. Right. Yeah. I
34:00
Speaker 1
Your office link. Of course, you'll. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Don't worry. Huh.
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Speaker 2
Right now, I'm in the same ring as my old wrist. So right now, I'm in a room, in the room with my extender, and if I go to my settings on my phone, I'm also connected to that extender on my phone, talking to you, and I'm reaching you on that. So none of that, I'm just, I feel like none of this is comfortable. I mean, what's going on? You know, it just seems like, you know, if I got to my phone, and just, just out of curiosity, okay, where are we? I will need a browser. Okay. Now, if I was gonna go and do something on my phone for that extender, what would I type in to see if I was connected to it?
35:00
Speaker 1
Okay. Let us just do an isolation first. Okay. That's what I was telling earlier. So we have different wireless sources. Okay. So we have here, the source, which is your obvious link, which is your main source of connection. And the range extender is just an accessory of your obvious link so that it can extend the signal because, yes, because one device cannot extend like infinite. Okay. There's like a range, okay? So, let us say, this mobile phone, if you're in the same location with your obvious link,
36:00
Speaker 2
because if I go in there and I go in to get that stager on my phone it's going to tell me that I'm not connected. I'll bet you 100 bucks you're going to tell me I'm not connected. uh what was it? Okay. Okay. Right? Right? Right? Yes, I know it is. extend the range of that's right right right
36:00
Speaker 1
So of course you will be getting full signal strength because you're close. Okay, and if you have full signal strength you have much higher internet speed. Okay. Then if you move farther from Ovislink, let us say no range extender yet, okay. So if you move farther from your Ovislink, of course your signal strength that you're receiving from Ovislink will get weaker. Okay. And so if the signal is getting weaker, of course the internet speed will go slower. And if you move farther more, then you'll get a very weak signal strength and of course the internet will be affected. So let us say, from full bars of three going back going then to two of five bars if you move farther, and then you're now getting one out of three bars. [silence]
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Speaker 2
That's right, yes. Yeah. Right. Mhm. Right. Right. Well, right now, okay.
37:00
Speaker 1
Okay. Okay, and you're connected to Ovaclink dash 4 see 12. Okay. Okay. Okay. So, if you're Okay. and you're connected to
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Speaker 2
i'm looking at it right now, Eric, and I got all the bars are there. Every one of them. I'm at, I'm deflect to Ovis 4-4C1Q _EXP. And both my TV says I've got full. Um, and my bars are all full on my TV. My bars are all full on this. And then when I go in and go into the links this, uh, this is, uh, into the extender, it says, you are not connected to the range extender's network yet. We can't help. So, what do I do? is telling me it's not not connected on my phone and it's and and everything else is telling I am, and then I can't get certain things on. So, nothing's
38:00
Speaker 1
Okay, actually I was trying to explain to you, Shirley, actually Shirley, I was trying to explain to you earlier because I already, um, understood your your question, like what's happening. I was actually trying to explain and I was not yet finished. Okay? So it's okay. So I was actually trying to explain, uh, in proper detail. Okay? So I understand that you mentioned that you're range extender, solid blue, you're connected, okay? But I'm just going to go directly with the with my answer instead. Possibility here is your extender might be getting weak bandwidth, uh, slow bandwidth from your source because it's far and not to mention when you mentioned to me, you have two walls. Okay? I'll set your expectations that if there's 100% signal from the source, by average, just by average, okay? That means that it's
39:00
Speaker 2
making sense. I, and I, I just try to explain it. I know. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. Yeah? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Right? Right? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Oh, I understand everything you're saying.
39:00
Speaker 1
from your source and that might be the reason why certain apps were not able to properly play or you may be connected to your range extender but you're not able to get the proper internet so our Okay. [silence]
41:00
Speaker 2
Okay. No, well, I have to check you this. Okay, you finish yours and then I'm going to tell you mine, Eric, because regardless of what you're saying, I have to say everything you're saying, I understand. Do you understand about the bandwidth, etcetera, etcetera? But then you have to explain to me why my extender worked perfectly on June 13th. From February 24th up to June 13th, it worked perfectly. I went away on the 13th in the afternoon. I came back on the 14th and it wasn't working, but everything was working.
41:00
Speaker 1
Uh-huh. Yeah. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I understand clearly [silence] I really do understand because it's actually I've been doing this a lot of years already. Different devices, access points, routers, modems, range extenders. Different marketing strategies.
42:00
Speaker 2
I worked from February 24th all the way up to the 12th of June. And then from the 12th of June, I came back on the, there was something that happened between the 12th of June and the 14th of June when I returned. Because when I returned, this is what I got. So, you know, the bandwidth was there, it had to be there. It couldn't have just disappeared. You know, I'm just trying to explain it to you. I'm not, I it's frustrating, you know? 'Cause I know it works. And uh, you know, Cruiser Escort said, Uh-huh. He said, He said, He said, He said, Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. [silence] [silence] [silence] Jamming or Scrambling has been deactivated.
43:00
Speaker 1
models, okay, different, like, standards from old standards until the latest standards, okay? And, but the core concept is still the same. Core concept is still the same, okay? And the one that I'm explaining to you earlier, because you're asking what seems to be the concern, okay? Then I'm trying to explain in in a proper way that, because I can just move ahead to just perform reset, but I want you to understand what we are doing, okay? So, we understand that, yes, we understand that you have your, like, your topology that you provided to me, okay? But I already informed you that we may uh move your range extender closer to increase the bandwidth, okay? But in the meantime, I already have verified that your TV is indeed connected to your range extender, because we check on the network connection, you're connected to not your
44:00
Speaker 2
Yeah, then I respect that. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, then I respect that. Okay. [silence] [silence] yeah. [silence] right? [silence] right. [silence] right? [silence] [growling] [silence] [silence] go ahead. Right? Okay. Mhm. Right? Right? Uh huh okay right yeah I understand. [silence]
44:00
Speaker 1
OK, I can also educate. Yeah, I can can also educate you what we're going to do and this is what you need to do, okay? And I can show you like the link speed at first, the bandwidth, and when you move your computer to another location, and this is now your bandwidth before it was 100%, now it's getting slow, at least it's thematic and you'll also learn from it, okay? And you'll understand how our range extender works. OK. So, in the meantime, okay, I I really wanted to understand your range extender, as that's the one that we we have uh two days ago. But since there's a variable here that I don't know yet the IP address of your range extender, because if I'll just.
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Speaker 2
That way to be in the fuzzy way. Yeah. Yep. Yeah, I know yeah, I've done that before. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. Right? No. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah, no, I understand. Yeah.
47:00
Speaker 1
go ahead to reset your device and reconfigure, it may have the same scenario that we did not get the root cause of the concern. So these are your our other options, okay? The ones that I we're trying to to do that's what we'd agreed. Once we get the username and password for your office link, then we can properly check what's the IP address of your range extender, so since it's a direct IP, then we can access it. Same as your office link. Its direct IP is 192.168.1.1. Because if you try to access it using 192.168.1.2, you cannot access it because it's a different IP. So the one that you need to do is what is the IP address of your range extender that was assigned by your office link, but we cannot see it because we cannot even access
48:00
Speaker 2
right right okay right okay right right right mm-hmm [silence] No. [silence] Yeah, I know.
48:00
Speaker 1
The web interface of your office link, okay? So once we have that, that will be a faster way because once I get access to the range extender, I can properly view all the settings, then I can properly see what are the signal strength there. And if I see that the firmware is already the latest, we don't need to do any update. We might just need to, okay, relocate this closer. That might be our solution, okay? Or, we can also perform reset and reconfiguration, but again, as what I mentioned to you, it may not address your issue with the prime video in X-Box, okay, or H-Box. Yeah. Okay.
49:00
Speaker 2
of the house and the house is not a brick house, okay? It's just aluminum siding. Now, it's my my TV and my router have worked there for a year. And uh, in that plug, uh, where it's closest to the house. Um, and so that's kind of that that my that situation is kind of out of the question. I can't kind of move it and leave it outside in the public outside where I can get into the one for two or, yeah, they not be the regular powered ones. Um, so I'm just trying to figure out what I should do. Um, would it be, I mean, I don't want to take up a lot of your time, Eric, and I understand, you know, you've done a lot for me. Um, but if I, I'm just not comfortable doing it on my own. Um, but if I, if I got that, um, not the IP, if I got to be able to get into the, if I had, if I could, [silence] got here. [silence] I'm not sure. [silence] I'm not sure. [silence] over. [silence] I'm not sure. [silence] over. [silence]
50:00
Speaker 1
[silence] Okay. So, uh, thank you for that additional information. And you're in a trailer, so it's like uh uh uh like a van, right? you mentioned trailer. It's like a moving house mobile home. Okay. So I understand. Thank you. I understand that it's uh uh a great uh asset. Okay. You can't just a mobile home, you can bring it anywhere. Okay. But so it's still comprises with metal, okay? Then you understand that electromagnetic signal is uh is electromagnetic. So if if it goes through a metal, usually, most of its energy is absorbed by the metal, because the metal is conductor. Okay? So there's a lot of things that we need to consider, but don't worry. Uh the only thing that we need to do here is uh we just need to ask for your help first for us to do that so that it will be a lot easier for us to pinpoint the root cause. Okay? Then then once we have that, at least I'll be able to properly see that your range extender is really working and everything is okay on the softer, but as what we agreed, if I find that the firmware is not the latest, then we are downloading it, we can then just proceed with up. But if you have a computer, as what we mentioned, it will be really elegant and very educational for you because we are doing it together. Okay? And we can connect your computer directly to your modem and we can access it and I can view the settings of your modem. Again, we don't need to do any changes. It's just a viewing mode, but at least we'll be able to, click the right button.
52:00
Speaker 2
Okay. Okay. Sure.
53:00
Speaker 1
okay, no need to click save so that there will be no changes, but I understand if you don't have a computer then I will not force you with that, okay, that's a reason why we can just. again, uh, I'm not forcing you to do that, okay, because I know, even me. I have neighbors that I don't borrow from them. something like that, okay. Oh, okay, it depends. Oh, I see. Okay. Okay. So again, it's not it's not really a compulsion for me, okay? It's just like a great way for us to have like a and in the meantime as well, uh, Shirley, is it okay with you, you can uh, maybe draw it, okay? Like your topology so that I'll I'll know like for example, yeah, just an estimate. No need like a really scale, okay? Just just an estimate like starting from your modem, you draw your floor plan going to like draw like how many walls in between? Like there's like a like uh something like a an area there, then going to your trailer and label the devices like, for example, the access point, your TV and your range extender and your trailer, something like that.
54:00
Speaker 2
[KEEP_UNCERTAIN] I would try, I would try. I will ask anyways. I don't know whether I've got laptops or not that I can borrow. I don't want to borrow a big huge computer to drag it over. Um but yeah, uh can certainly ask. Um and in the meanwhile. Yeah. Well. Yes. Okay.
55:00
Speaker 1
And just an estimate like distance, not really like exact, okay, there might be tolerance there. Something like 20 to 30 feet. Yeah, something like that. Yes. Yes. Wow, amazing. So, because if you have that, then at least I'll then be able to have like a way of when I contact you, that's how we discuss, okay, so this is how this is where the range extender, and I believe there's still an area here. Can you move it closer to ObisLink? Something like that when we have the floor plan. So, okay. And yeah, I appreciate your help. Uh, yeah, that's great. That's a great plan, okay? So, because what we're doing right now, surely, is really going to pinpoint and locate the root cause, okay? Uh, wow wow mhm yes that's a great plan I appreciate that not yet no worries okay I appreciate it I appreciate appreciate your cooperation okay so that's a great plan so no worries okay it's a teamwork process okay because without us communicating properly then we're not be able to like resolve even the second step okay so it's really a teamwork process okay so yeah yeah agree agree i appreciate yeah okay so uh as i agreed okay i'll be sending you another email for on that email it contains their like i'll be asking
56:00
Speaker 2
Oh, no, no, I, I, appreciate you cooperating with me. My gosh, you're really wonderful. Okay. That's right. That's right. We gotta resolve one step at a time. And I know about you gotta take it slow, you know, you one foot in front of the other, you know, and and you go with the flow and you can't uh you can't uh just jump 10 feet ahead because that doesn't work. You lose stuff in the process and it goes down the drain. So, you know, we all have to do it one step at a time. Okay. Perfect. [silence]
58:00
Speaker 1
Okay. Like, not really exact. Just a free hand, okay? Like your floor plan, okay? And the device label, uh, where's your office like is located and the TV and your range extender. Uh, we'll include your trailer, okay? Then in that way, we'll have a proper estimate. Okay? Okay. So, if I, if I'll do follow up, uh, same time frame, right? After six? Wow, that's, that's great additional information. Okay.
59:00
Speaker 2
Uh huh. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. No problem. No problem. Anytime you like. Anytime you like. I'm home all day, I'm home all day tomorrow. So anytime you like. If you if you if you if you need if you if you need a later time, I'm available. If you need an earlier time, I'm available. Oh no, no problem. Oh, thank you. No, no, no. I should.
59:00
Speaker 1
OK, so, Wow, that's kind of you. So Nina, what's important here is, I'm really glad if we're resolving the issue. Uh and also, if we are able to understand each other what we need to do, that's a really a great start. Okay. So, my name again is Eric Shirley. You're level two technician and you can also visit our website support.com. Wait for the email that I'll be sending, so that you can respond to it and attach your floor plan, okay? Okay, so have a great day again. Sherry. You too. Okay, and we'll have the email. We can communicate anytime for that, okay? Okay. And and
60:00
Speaker 2
think the last time I, I think the last time when they sent me a survey, I told them that they should give you a raise and I really did. Yeah. Yep. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Uh. Yes. Not a problem. Okay, perfect. Okay, Eric, you have a good evening. Yep. And we will talk to you tomorrow. Okay. Uh, you're that's not a problem either.
60:00
Speaker 1
And goodbye again Sherry. You too. Okay. Bye bye.
61:00
Speaker 2
Okay, have a good evening, honey.
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