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Call Start
2026-06-09 22:00
Duration
42m 24s
Contact
David McClure
Issue Type
WiFi Connectivity
V2 Outcome
Partial Resolution
V2 Band
Needs Improvement

Agent & Case Context

Agent
Maylene Delada
HappyFox Case
#TE00132857
Support Country
United States
Product Family
MESH SYSTEMS
CSAT
Sentiment Trajectory
Ticket subject: MX5300_Old wifi name is broadcasting
Transcript quality flagged: the ASR/quality-validation pipeline detected and excluded unreliable transcript segments from grading (1 hallucinated segment). Excluded from aggregate KPIs — treat remaining scores and transcript with caution.

V1 Rubric Scores

Resolution2.00/5
Accuracy1.00/5
Communication2.00/5
Protocol2.00/5
Efficiency2.00/5
Overall1.8/5

V2 Rubric Scores

Resolution1.56/5
Technical2.50/5
Communication2.50/5
Ownership2.50/5
EscalationN/A
Customer Exp2.50/5
Overall43.8% (+7.8)

V2 Grader Summary

The agent made meaningful progress by verifying warranty, guiding the customer through bridge mode configuration, and identifying potential ISP gateway conflict, but failed to fully resolve the phantom SSID issue. Troubleshooting was partially effective and technically mostly accurate, though some guidance was flawed. The interaction lacked full ownership and clear escalation, but did not meet auto-zero criteria. Outcome is Partial Resolution due to incomplete fix but demonstrable progress.

V1 Case Analysis

Customer reports lingering ghost SSIDs (Velop Shadow, Julie_Velop, Velop_temp01) after node resets. Agent attempted power cycles, bridge mode toggle, and suggested factory reset but did not resolve issue. Warranty confirmed active. No definitive resolution reached.

Troubleshooting Steps
  • Guided customer to access router admin page (192.168.1.1) and enter admin password.
  • Instructed power-cycle of nodes and checked if SSIDs disappear.
  • Discussed bridge mode on ISP gateway and toggled it.
  • Suggested a full factory reset of the mesh system as a last resort.
Key Observations
  • Agent provided materially incorrect technical guidance about default admin password being 'admin' ([08:00]), contradicting Linksys KB which states no universal default and requires user setup.
  • Failed to confirm exact product model before giving model-specific instructions, risking inaccuracy.
  • Poor call control with excessive holds, topic switching, and lack of outcome validation after steps.
  • No clear resolution or concrete next step established before call ended.
Positive Highlights
  • Confirmed warranty status using system lookup and communicated coverage clearly ([18:00]).
  • Created a case record and informed customer they now have a ticket for future reference ([16:00]).
  • Provided correct initial troubleshooting steps: accessing 192.168.1.1 ([06:00]), power cycling nodes ([13:00]), and checking SSID persistence with node off ([13:00]-[14:00]).
  • Correctly identified that persistent SSIDs when main node is off likely originate from another source ([21:00]).
  • Suggested checking Xfinity gateway settings as potential source of conflicting SSIDs ([22:00]-[23:00]).
Agent Errors / Gaps
  • Provided materially false information: stated default admin password is 'admin' ([08:00]), which contradicts Linksys KB and security practices.
  • Contradicted own guidance by first stating default is 'admin', then claiming complex password (10+ chars, special characters) is required without clarifying user-created nature.
  • Failed to capture or confirm exact product model before giving model-specific instructions ([03:00]-[04:00]).
  • Gave confusing instructions about bridge mode vs. router mode functionality and implications ([25:00]-[31:00]).
  • Poor call control – excessive holds ([05:00], [16:00], [41:00]), jumping between topics without confirmation of understanding.
  • Did not validate outcomes after key troubleshooting steps (e.g., after power cycle or bridge mode change).
  • Left call without establishing clear next steps or escalation path despite unresolved issue.

V2 Indicator Ratings

Resolution
R1 Not Met Issue actually resolved conf 95%
Customer still sees phantom SSIDs ('Julie Velop', 'Velop_temp01') after all steps; no resolution confirmed.
R2 Partially Met Diagnostic thoroughness conf 85%
Agent guided customer to access router UI, check Wi-Fi settings, and attempt bridge mode change — relevant but incomplete troubleshooting.
R3 Partially Met Correct resolution path conf 80%
Agent verified warranty status, offered correct path (in-warranty support), and suggested factory reset as last resort — but mixed in paid-support language prematurely.
Technical Accuracy
T1 Partially Met Technically accurate info conf 85%
Agent identified symptom (phantom SSIDs), asked about setup, ISP, and node count — logical but did not isolate root cause (ISP gateway vs. Linksys).
T2 Partially Met Appropriate tools / resources used conf 80%
Agent used serial lookup and warranty check tools; directed customer to access router dashboard — appropriate tool use, though no remote session or logs accessed.
T3 Partially Met No misinformation conf 85%
Most guidance accurate (e.g., 192.168.1.1, Wi-Fi settings), but incorrectly stated default admin password is 'admin' (not true for Velop); bridge mode explanation was vague.
Communication
C1 Partially Met Clear & professional language conf 75%
Agent framed interaction, set expectations, and managed transitions — but had multiple unexplained silences and repeated holds.
C2 Partially Met Confirmed understanding conf 75%
Agent adapted to customer’s technical level by explaining steps simply, but used inconsistent naming ('Linsys', 'DOS') and did not confirm understanding consistently.
Customer Ownership
O1 Partially Met Ownership & empathy conf 80%
Agent created a ticket and referenced prior history, but deferred to senior technician multiple times without resolving ownership.
O2 Partially Met Proactive follow-through conf 75%
Agent provided next steps (test after bridge mode, reboot node), but timelines were vague ('I'll be right back') and follow-up incomplete.
O3 Partially Met Closure confirmation conf 80%
Agent created a new ticket and noted troubleshooting steps, but did not reference any prior contact history despite customer mentioning previous calls.
Escalation Judgment
E1 Not Applicable Correct escalation decision conf 95%
No escalation occurred and none was warranted — agent remained on call and attempted resolution.
E2 Not Applicable Escalation prep & handoff conf 95%
No escalation occurred and none was warranted — agent remained on call and attempted resolution.
Customer Experience
X1 Partially Met Customer effort minimised conf 80%
Agent was polite and patient, but did not explicitly acknowledge customer frustration or repeat-contact fatigue.
X2 Partially Met Tone & rapport conf 75%
Agent maintained engagement and adjusted pace slightly, but continued with complex steps despite customer confusion and self-directed Google searches.
X3 Partially Met Overall experience conf 80%
Agent reduced effort by guiding customer through steps, but customer had to perform own Google search and re-login multiple times due to website timeouts.
Call Transcript63 turns · 72 lines
Speaker 2
Welcome to Linksys Support. To ensure quality service your call may be monitored. For in warranty products, our support team is available to help with performance and hardware issues. Register your product by visiting register.linksys.com. Please have your device serial number ready. For assistance, press 1 now. For out of warranty products, paid support may be available depending on your issue. To hear more about your service options, press 2. If you're experiencing issues with your Linksys product and it's no longer under warranty, paid support is available for a minimal non-refundable fee. This includes up to 60 minutes of phone support with our technical specialists. If your product is found to be defective, no refund or replacement will be provided. Please stay on the line to proceed with the paid phone support or get help from our AI powered support bot. at support.linksys.com. You can also connect with other users for tips and guidance at reddit.com/r/linksys. Thanks for calling Linksys. This is May. How can I help you? [silence]
00:00
Speaker 1
Does that make sense? Oh, that's new. When did you guys start doing that? It doesn't, it doesn't matter. Do you want the, the
02:00
Speaker 2
You can, yeah. So, your Wi-Fi bands are separated. It's no longer on same-steering mode. If you want to disable that, you need to log in to your router settings and have the Wi-Fi names and password all the same. And I have the serial number of your Linksys. If you're still in warranty, I can walk you through over the phone. If you're out of warranty, I can send you email for instruction on how you can do it. But if you want me to assist you right now, we have $15 option charge for one-time troubleshooting. Actually, it started, uh-huh. That's only if your router is out of warranty. If it's in warranty, uh.
02:00
Speaker 1
uh, Can you do that again? Sorry, I looked away for a second., uh, uh,
03:00
Speaker 2
this serial number uh nancy 3210... maike... M39903352. correct? uh... yesчарmare. all right. what do you have your? M3210? mike... M39903352. and what's the model number?
03:00
Speaker 1
MX [REDACTED_PAYMENT_DIGITS] I want to say two years ago, but that's a guess. And receipt, I would have to dig up my credit card history for that.
04:00
Speaker 2
Okay. Since our system here cannot detect the serial number, you bought this one, can you still remember what year? Do you still have the receipt? Was it more than three years? I see. One second. Let me check my other tool here if it can detect the first, uh when it was connected. One second. Okay. Uh the account owner here belongs to DJMZ032.
04:00
Speaker 1
Correct. Correct. My name is David McClure, M-C-C-L-U-R-E. Xfinity.
05:00
Speaker 2
zander1@gmail.com? Is this your active email? What's your first name and last name? Okay. I'll just create a record here, David. One second. Who's your internet provider? IPOMcast, okay. All right. Thank you for this information. And yeah, I was able to see right now the device. Let me just ask my senior technician real quick so that I can walk you through after, okay? I'll just ask approval real quick so that I can update the warranty of your device. I'll be right back, David. Just stand the line. And while waiting, please prepare your computer or iPad. We will be needing that to.
05:00
Speaker 1
Okay. I do. I have it prepped up. It's not really charged, so I have it on a cord, but I can connect it with an ethernet cable, which is nice. Oh, okay. That's cool, then. Okay. to to verify 192.168.1.1 what is your name?
06:00
Speaker 2
Do you have a computer or iPad? Yeah, it's okay if it's connected via Wi-Fi, it's totally fine. Okay, how about this, cuz he's still in the meeting, I'll just help you right now and I'll confirm with you later once I was able to update the warranty of your device. So, yeah, just pull up a browser. And then on your address bar, type this numbers, it's 192.168.1.1. Press enter. And tell me what page you have there.
06:00
Speaker 1
Juan. See what happens. Keep your Wi-Fi handy. Oh, it's asking me for a reset admin password, actually. Okay. Oh, okay. Uh 4, 8, 1, 6, 5. Okay. 4, 8, 1, 6, 5. Oh, come on, dude. 4, 8, 1, 6, 5. Submit.
07:00
Speaker 2
you got it right okay good click the picture of the phone there's two phone pictures there just click the image of the phone it will show one moment and it will route you to access router page can you still remember your router password okay so the recovery key is on the sticker underneath any of your links is nearby five digit code okay
07:00
Speaker 1
Choose a password that's secure and easy to remember. Uh, I can just choose whatever. I'm just gonna... Oh, wow. They make it hard. Mm, they make it hard. There we go. I know that one by heart. Okay.
08:00
Speaker 2
Okay. Yeah. That's your admin password, not Wi-Fi, though. So you're the only one who can log in. By the way, it's kind of complicated because you have to create 10 characters or more. There must be a capital letter, a number and a special character. Take your time. I'll just send. Yeah. Because default is actually admin and it's unsecured. You know, so the harder it is, the harder it is to access as well. If ever, someone will attempt to. Okay. You'll see there at the Dashboard having white box.
08:00
Speaker 1
Wi-Fi settings, got it. Um, looking at Wi-Fi settings... I see wireless. 2.4 gigahertz, 5 gigahertz band. Both named Velop shadow. Oh, maybe I didn't explain it well. That's my fault.
09:00
Speaker 2
There's actually a Wi-Fi settings part on the left side, Wi-Fi setting. Can you see it there? all three, separate things, 2.4, 5, 4. Okay. And just to make things clear, David, you wanted to separate, uh, you wanted to combine the Wi-Fi, right? Not to separate, but you want your Wi-Fi bands to be all the same.
09:00
Speaker 1
So after an update, I realized that looking at Wi-Fi to connect to, the Linksys generated now the original username for the Wi-Fi name. Right now it's labeled Velop Shadow, but it was Julie_Velop. And they created a new one called Velop_temp01. I see these on my Wi-Fi on my phone. So if I have to connect to a Wi-Fi connection, I see them as options. I don't know how to remove those because the router is trying to connect all of them together and I need to remove them so it only focuses on one. Does that make sense? Um... There is because we have a different modem. A Veloce shadow and shadow extension which is for the uh um connection between the modem router specifically because they can't be the same name. They are the same the 2.4 gigahertz and the 5 gigahertz are the same name.
10:00
Speaker 2
Currently, the Wi-Fi names that you can see there are all the same, all identical for 2.45 gigahertz, right? It's not separated. Uh huh. Exactly because it will have conflict. But the Wi-Fi settings there that you're looking at, the 2.4 and 5 gigahertz. Is that the same for both? Okay. And just for me to, like, really understand.
11:00
Speaker 1
The Linksys node or parent node has some registry of Juju. I'm sorry. And VLAB. I'm sorry. and temp temp temp zero one. I am not able to remove those. For some reason, these nodes think they exist but they don't. That's what I need to remove. So, it's not any issues with shadow shadow name. Shadow shadow should be okay. The VLab Julia and VLab temp temp and temp temp zero one, they don't exist but
12:00
Speaker 2
You wanted David. You want only one SSID to broadcast for both the routers, Linksys and then for your Comcast? Like one connection only? Yeah. but still showing up. Mhm. Okay. Got it. Ah, yeah. Just last week, I received the same concern as, and then we tried, like, restart, I mean, just to confirm if you have really similar concern. When you unplug this node, that old Wi-Fi is no longer showing up, right? Once you're links is unplugged. Have you tried that to check if it will still show up despite having the node turned off?
12:00
Speaker 1
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14:00
Speaker 2
Yeah, in order for it to totally reboot. And if that will restart the whole system, actually. And you can then check while it's off, if that old name will still appear, because if it will still appear without the node being activated, that only means that there's no settings that we can change on the router just to get rid of it. Now, once it turned back on, there's a chance it will no longer show up since the system got restarted. If ever it still show up once it's powered on, that only means that it's the node which is reviving that old network. So that's one of the workaround. If ever, David, it will really show up once your nodes is turned on, we can try to, like, [silence]
14:00
Speaker 1
Uh, I have a total of five. So, a factory reset would fix it. Ah. Damn.
15:00
Speaker 2
But how many Linsys devices do you have there, by the way, aside from this main one? Okay, five, because the last troubleshooting step for this is just to be honest, is to reset completely the system and to reconfigure it back. But one thing I can assure you, even though the old name will appear, it will not gonna have any problems with connectivity or when it comes to security. Um, rest assured your Linsys is is not at risk. It's just showing up the old name. And, uh, All right, but that's gonna be the last resort. And it's up to you if you want to proceed with that. Are you the one who set up this node alone?
15:00
Speaker 1
Wait, I don't have a record with you guys. That's weird. I've called you guys before. Oh... I see. Um. Okay.
16:00
Speaker 2
here yet. I see. So, I mean, there is no ticket. If that was last year, since we have a new tool, David, probably your account is not yet migrated. I just check the, yeah. Since you have a new tool. If you called us a long time ago or last year, then it's not yet migrated to our new tool. But no worries. I already created this ticket here for you. If you want to get the ticket number, I can give it to you just in case if you wanted to. And oh, just think of it for the meantime. I'll just gonna put this call on hold. Let me just ask my technician for your warranty to be updated, okay? I'll be right back, David. Just keep me two minutes back. All right?
16:00
Speaker 1
I was right, the update changed some things. They said the lady on the phone told me like she's heard of this issue before recently, and I'm like, Oh, great. Same issue. The factory reset went back to the previous version. [silence] Ah. uh yeah. Fair enough. Okay. So I've thought about it. You're saying a factory Reset would most likely solve it, right?
17:00
Speaker 2
Hi David. I was. Oh, sorry. Can you hear me? OK. Thank you so much for staying on the line. And yeah, good news. I was able to um update here the warranty. Our system here shows it was connected year 2024. So from starting this year, you'll be eligible for three years warranty technical support for your device. But uh, just a disclaimer if ever your router will be deemed defective and you are asking for replacement, that's the time that we will be needing the receipt. Okay? All right. All right. Okay. Because factory restarting your device, it will remove or delete all the bogs. I mean, uh, it will work like a new one.
18:00
Speaker 1
Okay, I will restart my lynksys and see if. Is there like a restart button or do I log into the app. All right, turning it off.
19:00
Speaker 2
but you need to restart by the way you need to start it first just to see if that old name will still appear despite your device being turned off.
19:00
Speaker 1
We're gonna see what happens. I'm waiting for the original name to disappear. I am refreshing. It still says I'm connected to... Develop shadow, even though it's it. Why do I have internet? I just turned it off.
20:00
Speaker 2
okay sure okay just uh leave it off now check your Wi-Fi list if your Wi-Fi uh yes sure you can switch off and on as well the Wi-Fi on your phone to refresh the list okay there you go.
20:00
Speaker 1
Oh, did it? the other ones did disappear so that no, they did not disappear. So I still see the Julie one. Yeah, it was the main parent node. I wonder if it's anything to do with the uh Xfinity box. [silence]
21:00
Speaker 2
do they have another access point there I mean, do you have another router, aside from the linksys? Okay, because if it's still showing active, yeah, I think that really belongs to another router, not by DOS. because your linksys main, this is the main node, right? that you turned off? because, okay. not unless if since you got five nodes in total, uh, maybe some of your four extenders, that's what also I'm thinking. if you have a gateway mode,
21:00
Speaker 1
It is a gateway [silence] I do have their app. Yeah [silence] Thank you. The [gate] Wifi name. The [gate] It says Wifi name is The Shadow, which should be right.
22:00
Speaker 2
a modem is that a gateway not a plain modem? [silence] OK. probably that you have the exact name like I mean you can login to their app if you have their [silence] app oh I mean if you have their um app I'm not sure if they have one but is there a way for you to OK? [silence] You can check the settings there. [silence] Could be that name really belongs to or to the [silence] router [silence] Wi-Fi settings uh tab.
22:00
Speaker 1
Is there other things I'm supposed to be looking for? Okay, that looked for guests. Yeah, guest services. I don't know how to find guests. Ah, ah, ah
23:00
Speaker 2
On their app. I'm not really familiar with their application, so I'm not sure. Maybe they have their guests, same as ours, guest network. Yeah. guest. Or how about this, David, so that you can sort these things out. Do you have their numbers so that we can ask them? We'll just gonna let them know that we already turned off your router from Links. But [silence]
23:00
Speaker 1
Oh, I already had Xfinity come out. Like they came out and told me it was Linksys that was causing my internet issues. The dude came here and did stuff and now it is better but I still have issues, so that's why I called you guys. Yeah, because I have multiple um Wi-Fi names which should not exist. Um,
24:00
Speaker 2
You're still connected to that Wi-Fi so that they can check as well. Uh, that's your main concern. You're having problems with your connectivity at all and sometimes this one happens, David, if ever the extender is not being set up as an extender if it's being set up as another parent node, but if you're sure that you were able to configure.
24:00
Speaker 1
Yes, all of the other four are wirelessly connected, only one is ethernet connected to the modem and that is the parent router, parent node. It is possible that the x-Finity box is doing the router and modem at the same time while the router is also doing the routing. Hu
25:00
Speaker 2
[silence] the router then it should not cause any issues. They're all connected wirelessly by the way. Your four extenders mesh extenders, which is the Parent. Okay. it's all right, right. you can also try to do bridge mode but yeah doing bridge mode will disable
25:00
Speaker 1
They told me to keep it on for better speeds, which it has increased the speeds, but. so I need to turn off bridge mode. in order to diagnose this any further. Okay. Okay, so, I need to find out how to find bridge mode. um, let me see. If I can search it. Bridge. uh, Oh geez. Um, give me some time on this. I I have never used their app before. um, [silence]
26:00
Speaker 2
some of linksys features. Let me see. all right. for you to easily identify if it's linksys or the ISP issue uh huh.
26:00
Speaker 1
um let me do a quick google search. Uh bridge mode Xfinity app. Uh Wi-Fi tab. equipment. advanced settings. Wi-Fi. Uh view equipment. advanced settings. Gateway admin tool? No. What was it? Um admin tool access online and save changes. alright you want me to do the thing? Admin tool password. Um I'm just gonna do the generic. fucking pricks. Whatever. Okay, please log in and view. Okay, we're gonna... I'm gonna assume this is it. I was incorrect. What is your username? I don't know username. That is fantastic. Give me a second here. Use admin. Got it. Admin. And let's see if this is it. Was that incorrect? Okay. Admin. *silence* What do I do after I'm close to the mode gate? Ah- safe, thank God. Okay, that one did work. bridge mode is disabled at the moment. Bridge mode is disabled. Is that good? I believe so. So right now, I have it as disabled. So how was I still I guess because of that
27:00
Speaker 2
[silence]
30:00
Speaker 1
I assume the modem did not try to act as a router. Correct? So it needs to be in bridge mode to separate it. Oh, that's what it means. Ah sorry, okay. Let me enable this. Bridge mode. Yada yada yada. I pressed okay. This will take 90 seconds. Please wait. After this, do you want me to test turning off Wi-Fi connection? Turning it back on will create said instances again. If not okay. We'll try that. After that we will [silence]
31:00
Speaker 2
they're actually both acting like a router, since it's not on bridge mode. If bridge mode is enabled
31:00
Speaker 1
we can, um, do what we can. I logged into their app, follow directions, logged onto the computer, which allowed me to access the gateway which allowed me to enable bridge mode. They don't have a button on the app for this specific purpose, but it's on the website, I guess. Okay. Um, it says it has another like 30 seconds.
32:00
Speaker 2
Is it saying your able to log into the app the their app? I Mm-hmm. The your modem probably right now is still rebooting applying the new changes. if ever you'll call back in the future, David, from now on, you have already a ticket here, and I recorded the concern that you have right now, including the troubleshooting steps we did. Just in case, you'll have a problem in the future. You're welcome. And is this your phone number? it's 95 27373454. Okay. Should you call us back, just provide a phone number and our next technician can just pull up the record instantly and will know what device you're calling for. Is it still, um, how many percent it is right now?
32:00
Speaker 1
well, I got kicked off the website. My internet isn't on. My internet just came back on. So, I'm not able to log into this website anymore. Apparently. Well, that's going to be tricky later down the road, but whatever. Okay. So, I'm going to do this. Log into this again. Out of the way, dog. [silence] All right. Now I have to resign in. [silence] Okay. I have logged back into the Lynx's web page. I have Internet on this. Do you want me to turn off the Lynx node and turn it back on? Yeah. I will wait until it completely dies. [silence]
34:00
Speaker 2
You can try the main node still. Just at 10 seconds the world to.
35:00
Speaker 1
I don't understand. Why is it still... I still see the um Velop Julie and stuff. The main known does not have anything on. I actually still see Velov Shadow too. No, it keeps dying. So it connects and dies and I just reclic it and it just dies again.
36:00
Speaker 2
still same? and there's no light at all in the main node, it's still off, so probably from, [silence] and you're connected to it and you're online, can you try to forget the network?
36:00
Speaker 1
It's an an iPhone. I'm it's not trying to reconnect. I'm just clicking it to connect. Okay. So the parent node is off and I still see that Julie velop. Why is that? I don't I can't connect to it. It, when I see it available, no, I can't connect to it, but I still see it.
37:00
Speaker 2
if it's an iPhone, there's like a little i icon. I see. You can tap and hold and do, okay. You can see it, but it's not, you got to test if it's online or not, right? Uh, sorry. You can connect? You can't, I see.
37:00
Speaker 1
[silence]This phone is new as of three days. Okay.I will check laptop. IC veilup shadow is locked. I see veilup Julie as lock and their extensions. I will try to connect.
38:00
Speaker 2
[silence] [silence] pretty much better. [silence] manage system flight off. [silence] [silence] [silence] Mhmm. Yes. [silence] can you try to connect to that old Wi-Fi name? [silence] [silence] Mhmm.
38:00
Speaker 1
can I connect to this network okay so wait until the light is like blue again okay yeah [silence]
39:00
Speaker 2
All right. So turn on your Linus router now and once it's totally back online David, we'll try to connect to the old network if it will allow you to connect. Yeah, it will be but 3 minutes Max.
39:00
Speaker 1
the main no one is now solid red okay I'll give it some more time and see if that does it I need to turn it on after a while it out just switched the blue
40:00
Speaker 2
Okay, time is almost up. Is it still flashing red? The main node. Okay. Let's just wait till it will flip blue. Okay, using through your laptop, try to connect to the old Wi-Fi. Tell me if the message is still, same despite notice being turned on. Okay. I'll just ask my senior technician real quick for this one, Dave, that I'll just confirm you need to do a reset or not, okay? Given that even the device is turned off, it still showed up. Just stay on the line. Just wait probably till it takes me this time, max of four minutes. I'll just
40:00