Speaker 1
This is Linksys technical support calling. This call is recorded for quality assurance. Please hold as we connect you to a Linksys specialist. Hello. Hi. Good morning. Uh, this is Clark from Linksys. I'm calling regarding the ticket that was actually escalated to our department regarding with your Linksys switch. Yeah. Are you available right now to talk regarding on this one? Okay. All right. Thank you so much. So, All right, sure. Sure. Thank you so much for that. That's right.
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Speaker 2
Yes, hello, hello. This is rich. Good morning. Okay. That's, that that's right. It's a POE switch. That's right. Yep, yep, yep, I do. I yep. Of course. Yes, no problem. So I don't know, I don't know, I don't, I don't know, I don't know if you reviewed the notes are in there. I'll I'll but I'll go over with you what it is. So do you want me to? So, so based so, yep, so basically it's it's a 16-port switch, which you, you have the model number, right? And it's an 8-port POE on it. And rough, roughly two weeks ago, uh, we moved our, our
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Speaker 2
Office stand. I mean, I don't know if it's relevant or not, but we moved our office and when I brought it back here, when I went to connect it, it didn't work. And I don't know if there's any causal effect. I don't think there should be, but just kind of letting it was working, number one. So when I plug the unit in, the uh oh a LED orange light comes on briefly and all the power over e ports turn green briefly and turn off. So that's that. And then when I plug if I plug in any normal device and any of the 16, I'll get a link light and it works. So as far as that, you know, position is concerned. I'm getting data in and out. I'm just not I'm not getting any power over ethernet output on it. So I went over cuz we're using this for our phones. So what I did here is uh oh, so when I plug the phone into the device, I get nothing. The phone doesn't turn on or anything. So I have another power over ethernet injector, a single device that I use for other
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Speaker 1
uh huh. Um. Uh, no, sir. Because, um, if you're gonna connect a, a non-PoE device to the PoE switch, uh, PoE port, I'm sorry. Uh, only the...
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Speaker 2
um, so I plugged that in, plugged into my phone, and it's no problem. It powers up my my phone. Plus, what I'm talking about on here is I'm using the same thing, same on one of our phones and using that PoE injector in it. So, um so the phone works, the cable works, I tried all the ports, no difference. Um, it's just not. Do do you know if the function normally is that, uh, when you plug it in the ports in the beginning, if you plug any device that is a POE device when you plug it into it, only only that LED will turn on and it'll power the device. It doesn't turn all, it doesn't turn all the port POE lights on, right? They don't they don't go on natively.
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Speaker 1
data will allow for that. that's actually correct. yes yes that's actually right so it will the all the leads will turn on and then after that it will turn off since again that's a Bluetooth process on the switch itself so right now sure none of your telephones is connected to the eight four switch is that correct ok.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. Okay. Okay. So the LED is individual. So the POE led that's on the top, the green one, only comes up if it sees the POE device and it's actually powering it. Right. Normal switch, it won't do it or any other device that won't do it. Okay. So but that's so but is it normal also when you power up the unit that the all the LEDs flash on and then they go off? Is that a normal boot process? Do you know? That's right. Okay. Yeah, that's right. I have it in front of me. It's just the port. There's nothing connected to it. So all I've been doing is testing individual LEDs by connecting up devices, and that particular one for POE power. And occasionally it will flash on when other devices are connected. Does that mean that it's trying to do POE? Yeah.
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Speaker 1
No light. Also, is that correct? mm-hmm. Um, even though one... Okay. Even though trying only one, um, phone connecting to the PoE ports, right? Still not working. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That's actually right. So, probably there's really now something's probably wrong with the switch. Uh, may-[be]- I asked her, when did you purchase the switch, by the way?
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Speaker 2
I have a phone here and I just plugged it into it and it doesn't work. And then I same phone I take the Yeah, there's no LED. There's no PoE LED and there's no power to the phone. Okay, and I tried all of them. I tried all of them. That's right. Only one. That's right. That's right. Yeah, yeah. I'm not I'm not overloading it cuz I don't know also what its function when it overloads, will it turn them all off? And it but then the the maximum PoE yellow light should come on, right? Right. Right. So that'll come on and it'll I don't have receipt for this. It's it's been I don't I don't think it's over five years, but uh I was looking at
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Speaker 1
Yeah, because based on our our, based on our system using the serial number on the unit it shows that the device was purchased here 2018. Okay. Yeah. And then the device actually runs a five year hardware warranty. The device approaches on 2018 and since it has a five years hardware warranty so that does warranty of the device already expired? Yeah. So we can no longer Oh no, because it's just like a pass through. So it's an unmanaged. It doesn't have like a GUI that we can access and do some upgrade.
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Speaker 2
get the warranty on it but uh it's not a recent it's not a recent for sure. Yeah. Yeah. 2018. Is that possible? I don't I don't think so. I don't I don't keep track of it. I'm just, you know, an employee here. I don't I don't have. Yeah, that's eight years. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So obviously too, there's obviously, there's no yeah, there's no firmware updates. There's no tools. There's no way to get in there and update any firmware on it. Okay. It's an unmanaged.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, it doesn't have the reset button also. Yeah, probably, sir, since that's actually correct. Since you mentioned already that those phones are working fine on this, and then after like two weeks over, um, when connecting those phones on the POU ports of the switch, those phones are not working. However, when using a POU inject or the phone is working, um, isolation, uh, on the unit, uh, you already isolated the issue, and it's not an issue with the phone since again the phone is working using like a [silence]
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Speaker 2
Hmm. I'm just puzzled why it's not working. That's what I'm saying. It was working two weeks ago, and now it's not working. So there's no way to reset it. That's what's so strange about it. I mean, it's not like it, I was using the phones two weeks ago. Yeah, there's no other, so there has to be some type of internal hardware failure. Is that kind of what it is? Yeah. That's right.
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Speaker 1
We injector and then why it's connected to the POE port of the switch is not. So, it seems that there is like the POE, uh it's not providing a power anymore to any POE devices when you're gonna connect it to the POE uh port. Yeah, there's none.
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Speaker 2
yeah. So obviously there's no internal fuses or anything. I mean, that kind of thing, right? I don't know how that. Normally, it would normally there. Yeah. Normally there'd be some kind of current limiting circuit and so even if a device was that was plugged into it was defective or something. I didn't do that. I mean, I was only using one phone when I got here and uh going from but going from uh you know, uh a drop to my office to plugging it into that and plugging it in uh to a phone into it. I didn't get it right off the bat and was like, it wasn't like I plugged all the phones into it and and tried all of them at one time. It was just one testing one of them when I first
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Speaker 1
I see sir right away mm-hmm mm-hmm there's like a possibility in that one sure mm-hmm mm-hmm mm-hmm that's right
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Speaker 2
[silence] brought it in. So, uh it didn't work right up right immediately. So it's cuz I was the only you know, I mean, let's say hypothetically the drop, uh the network drop was not wired properly. Um could cuz that I mean what I don't know what it would normally do. It couldn't internally damage it, right? I mean, I don't know. Yeah. So I did just letting you know too, as I did a normal network cable test from end to end and it shows all all eight wires are there. It doesn't say it's mismatched or crossed or anything like that. I tested that before even connected anything in the system just to verify my jack was active. So, I mean, I did that initially, right? So just connecting from the the the the rack, the patch panel itself to my office. I did a connect end to end and there was no crossed. There was no missing. There's no, you know, anything like that end in the bit. But but even so, even if it was,
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Speaker 1
yes sir that's actually correct. I'm sorry sir? uh-huh. yeah. uh-huh. I think I think it would not work because uh if you're gonna connect like a P-huh uh if you're gonna connect like a P-uh injector it won't work because the P-uh injector needs still to be powered on right in order for like you need to plug that one in a socket in order for the P-uh to provide like a power. but if you're gonna connect it to like a P-uh switch which is
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Speaker 2
But what happens, I mean, and I didn't do this, but what happens if you put a POE into a POE? So if you plugged up, if you put it, you know, like I had the injector, right? So if you put the output of the injector into your your POE, what would happen there? Would it not work? What would it, what would happen? [silence]
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Speaker 1
It's still the same, it won't provide power to the injector uh to the injector at all. Because the other and um I think it won't work still there. if you're gonna connect like injector. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah, I see. I think it won't if if you're gonna do that, if you try that or something like that, I think it won't. I think it won't damage tail. It won't damage if that kind of setup was done. Um I'm curios if you're gonna try that, like mixing the power and ground to see if like doing that in the common setup.
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Speaker 2
No, but I'm saying, what, but what happens if they're both powered? So it's, so, so the, yeah, I mean, accidentally if you do that, you know, kind of thing, you didn't realize that this device, uh, was another power equipment, uh, the power equipment on our network, and we accidentally plugged it into your switch, right? To manage using everything under one switch. I'm just trying to think here, uh, what else could cause the the all the ports to fail? It's not even just one they all failed. Right? So it was which is just so I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not gonna try it. I'm just trying to envision something that
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Speaker 1
like connecting like a POE to the POE. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. alright Mm-hmm. yeah. there's no. It's just really like a pass through, like an unmanaged switch, it doesn't have any. [silence]
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Speaker 2
[KEEP_UNCERTAIN] Yeah, so the only thing I'm probably, yeah, so I think my next test right now, which I was thinking about is I might put the injector, just to test it from the injector from our patch panel to my office here, to simulate the whole thing. I I'm not doing that. I'm doing the injector right here at the end, right? So I'm doing it right in my office. So out of my office into the injector and the injector into the phone. I'm not doing it, you know, from our patch panel into there and all the way over to here. So, I mean, it's only a 15 watt anyway. I'm not even sure. I'm assuming it could handle one device, but I mean, this your device is is an 80 watt device. So. But mine is uh, it's only a 15 watt injector for like a single device. So anyway, but the only thing you're saying is there's no real, there's no checking, there's no damage, there's no fuses. Uh, there's no firmware, there's nothing. And it's right and there's no fuse and it's.
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Speaker 1
[KEEP_UNCERTAIN] Yeah. Special configuration on it? Yeah. Um, yeah, it doesn't have like a rack, just a wall. Yeah. Yep. That's actually correct. Yeah, it doesn't have it doesn't have one. Yeah. This unit is only for wall, um, sir, uh, sir, uh, we. Yep.
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Speaker 2
okay okay and then uh... I'm also curious I don't remember we didn't use a rack mounted but do you know if this device if I buy does it come with a rack mount uh bracket or is it only a wall mount bracket Well some of them have the extra little they put to the side you know you add little little little metal brackets to the left and the right and then you can mount it but it does this one does not come with that yeah for some reason I thought I thought I saw that originally when I looked at the the product when I looked it up previously and I thought it said includes you know um rack mount bracket I just uh uh or on a shelf or or on or on a little or on a little
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Speaker 1
enter in a shall, yes. Yep, that's right. All right. That's right. All right. All right, thank you. That's right. That's right. As long as as long as the data is say is still coming. So you can still use that one. All right. Thank you so much for answering this call. Um, Sharie. Again, this is Quark from linksys. Have a good one. Take care and goodbye. Bye-bye.
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Speaker 2
[HUMAN_REVIEW] oh, yeah. A little aromatic, on a little shelf. I got it. Okay. All right. So, you're, it's outside of warranty. There's not something I can do to get it repaired. It's probably not worth getting repaired anyway. I mean, the price, I'm looking at some of the prices right now, it's only like $80, I think, for the, I'm seeing retail. So, it's not, it's not worth attempting to do that. Okay. All right. Well, I appreciate your time. There's not really much I can still use it as a, yeah, rock mount, a shelf, a little rock mount, an aroma-shelf, an aroma, right, is it. Rock mount, it should be possible. Okay. Okay. All right. Okay. Okay. You too. Thank you. You too. All right. Bye bye. Bye bye.
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