Speaker 1
This is from technical support calling. This call is recorded for quality assurance. Please hold as we connect you to a specialist. Okay, so, yeah this actually is Yeah, this best I'm sorry.
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Speaker 2
Hi. Yep, speaking. Yeah, I'm just yeah, this is fine. I'm just kind of frustrated. I've been having ongoing problems ever since I bought the unit. I've contacted you guys countless times on it. Every time the first level passes me to the second level and the second level tries to help and we reset the devices. We update firmwares. We reset to factory. We relink. We do all these things. that works for a week or so and then it just reverts right back to what's happening. What's going on is every time I try to, I'll be in the middle of a zoom meeting, it just dies. I've also been having some power issues in my RV. I'm having a, I'm having a huge power issue. So I don't I don't know if that's probably some sort of conflict, but these are two completely different things. I hate to mix up the issues. A, it kills the whole America. You can't waste a lot of time looking into an issue. It don't look like I'm not dealing with the issue. Docs actually is trying to make the RV team try and help me through the whole issue, but it seems to be a much bigger can of worms. It's like, that's number one for me right now and Gotta do something else.
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Speaker 1
[silence] Okay. So basically, [silence] [silence] [silence] Can I place this call on hold? Just give me a three to five minutes. I have to transfer this issue.
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Speaker 2
after year and now, and I, and I, and I keep noting, like I keep saying, I'd like to get these units replaced as per your guys' statements 20 different times now. You guys, I feel like you guys are just dragging me out until the point where today they told me, oh, you're actually outside of your warranty now, which is very frustrating because I've documented these problems since I bought the unit, and I've been told numerous times that we'll get these taken care of and replaced, but they just want to double check things a few more times and to call back. And every time I call back, they string me along by saying the same thing, and now I'm outside of warranty, and I'm kind of pissed off because my internet's... if I go over to the gateway and connect wirelessly to my shop terminal, it works totally fine. It's your guys' side of the system that's not working right.
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Speaker 1
Okay. Okay, yeah, just, stay in the line, John. I'll review your tickets here. You're welcome.
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Speaker 2
If you look at the history on my phone number, you'll see I've called in countless times about this. Thank you so much. [silence] hi [silence] yeah I've done I've done this I've done this like 17 times with you guys already [silence] Yes, we've done all this. We've done this. We've done everything we're going to try. We've done like 20 different times. Is it not in the notes? [silence] Like this just so frustrated. [silence] Like we've switched nodes. We've reset nodes. We've updated everything. We've yeah. It's just this is so frustrating. Like I'm just like I don't know if I'm going to be able to go through this another time with you. I'm just never going to buy anything from Linux ever again in my life. [silence] Like this is insane. Like you guys you guys have wasted probably like 20 hours of my life troubleshooting stuff and telling me that we're going to replace it and then I just need to call back and waste another 10 hours every time I call. Like it's it's absolutely insane that it's gotten [silence]
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Speaker 1
I apologize that because yes I can see it in your records however we don't have enough capability to pull up the older tickets so what we can just see is the newer tickets for now okay so what we're what are we going to do next we'll have put first down what we call the system information or that is is in infologs
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Speaker 2
It's gone this long without you guys doing what you say you're gonna do. Do you want case numbers? I have multiple case numbers for you. So like what's the point of even having this? Like, I'm still having the same problem. Everything that you and I are gonna do right now is just a complete waste of time, because these units are defective and they need to be replaced. I work out of town. I'm back for like two days a month and my interconnect is always shit. Like it's just so frustrating that ugh. All right. What do we need to do to start going through this nightmare of these garbage products?
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Speaker 1
So that's where we start. Okay, so do you have a computer system that is currently connected to the router, via wired or wireless? Okay, do you have the Linksys app installed on your phone? Okay, please launch the LinkSys app. Okay. And but it's it mean for me, I did, sir. I believe you are already informed by the previous technician that your device is already outside of its warrenty period, so we're not able to process a replacement for your device.
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Speaker 2
I don't know. Okay. No, I have a phone the phone that's currently connected. I have the links this app. Yeah. Okay, it's just getting the router settings. I know, but I've called every time like this is what pisses me off because every time your guys have told me, don't worry, we're going to get it replaced. Just go and test these new settings we've done and call us back. And then I called them back and you guys screw around and change more settings and do more stuff and want me to keep checking it out again. So that's what I keep doing. And then I don't oh.
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Speaker 1
yeah I'm sorry we've got you then on the server please click on network administration then under network administration click on [silence] then click on users [silence] then click on logout
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Speaker 2
Uh I'm not always home so I don't always think about it and then when I come home and my internet's still doing this stupid shit, I call you guys. You look at all the times I've called in, I've called in probably like 25 different times about this. Like how and every time they're like, don't worry. You're still covered under warranty. And every time I'm like, you guys just keep saying this and keep string me along so that by the time this happens, you guys go, oh, you're actually not covered under warranty anymore. Like that's absolutely ridiculous. I've been documenting these problems since day one. Literally night one I plugged these pieces of garbage in. I should have took them back to the store and returned them and got my money back. All right, I'm in the app. What would you like me to do? Uh network administration.
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Speaker 1
diagnostics then after clicking on diagnostics click on send network logs so Sarah can you press that again yes this twice yeah click on I mean tap again on send network logs
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Speaker 2
All right. All right. You should have them. I'm sending again.
20:00
Speaker 1
OK, thank you very much for this information. Sorry, I was able to receive the logs. OK. and what is the make and model of your modem provided to you by your ISP?
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Speaker 2
It's the, hold on one sec. Can I have that info?
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Speaker 1
okay got it then you shall get the xb7 okay and for this one have you tried to connect a computer like physically to the port of the gateway and see if the computer connected to the gateway has a stable connection yeah directly do you mean you have a computer that is connected wired directly to the modem
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Speaker 2
It is the Shaw gateway XB7. It's made by Commscope. C-O-M-M-S-C-O-P-E. The Shaw system works flawlessly hard wired and wirelessly. Vee. No, my, I've plugged my PlayStation into it and it works. So I plugged my PlayStation into the modem directly. It works. I've done my PlayStation wirelessly as well as my phone wirelessly. That's my first thing I check every time. I'll be doing something, I'll be in a meeting, I'll be doing whatever on my phone or on whatever I'm on. [silence] My PlayStation, and then it'll just drop what I'm doing. Or it'll say, you're not connected to the internet anymore, would you like to use cellular data if I'm on my phone. So then what I do to test if it's my internet that's down or if it's these stupid [silence] Linksys [silence] smart garbage hubs, I'll switch to my Shaw network and every time I switch to my Shaw network, my internet works totally fine again. Then I'll switch back to the Linksys network. It'll say you are connected but you are not connected to the internet. So then usually I can just go into the Linksys, and again, it's a huge pain in the ass 'cause the whole process takes about 20 minutes. Go into the Linksys app. I manually restart my routers, and then I wait for it to restart. And when it restarts, normally it's back working, fine again. This time, it has not worked, and it has not worked, and I've reset it multiple times. And I go over to my Shaw gateway and it works totally fine, and then I come back to Linksys, because Licksys. I got the system so that it can reach parts of the house that the Shaw system will not reach. So, I've gone through. I've configured all these settings so that the Shaw router is optimized has optimized settings for the Linksys system. I've changed
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Speaker 1
Okay, so right now, So what's the status on the Linksys router? What's the color of the light? Yeah, of the parent node. Okay. Okay.
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Speaker 2
It is red right now but that's because I have restarted my Shaw router as well. [silence] So if we just give that if we just give that a couple of minutes till that's back online and every time it says I'm connected but there's not connected, it's blue. Like it's showing that it's working. And I'm like, because that's the next thing I check after I switch networks and figure out a bit, then I go back and see, okay, what color is the thing? Is it red? Is it orange? Is it green? Is it blue? it's just so frustrating. [silence]
26:00
Speaker 1
[silence] Not yet, let's wait for the modem to back online. Is the modem modem online right now? Yeah, okay.
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Speaker 2
ar he goes Susan's while I wait as well. Ah, one sec. uh, Yeah,
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Speaker 1
Okay. Then, Okay. So, yeah, because at this point you're one,
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Speaker 2
Okay, that's back on and the light's blue again.
30:00
Speaker 1
what are we going to do is we'll have to reflash the firmware of the router so meaning we have to load the firmware manually. okay. bi just uh and on the will just uh not on the shop or we will not do anything on the shop, just the lenses. yeah and for this one sir. yeah we might we will need to use a computer like to load the firmware. do you have one that we can use? do you have a tablet sir? yeah if if if you have a tablet then yeah we can try the tablet. yeah that 's that 's okay. we can give it a try. okay that tablet of user is that a what you call this uh ipad okay. so on your tablet sir
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Speaker 2
like on my Shaw system or on the Lynx system? I'll take. uh not with me at the moment. Is there any other way to accomplish this? Uh, I'm like the tablet runs on the same operating software as my phone. okay, I've got a tablet iPad.
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Speaker 1
. please open the browser [silence] yeah. try to forget network or yeah. just tap your Wi-Fi name at the end. try to forget. okay. so are you connected back to the router. okay. so oh.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, hold on. I'm not going to be able to connect though, because I don't have internet. It's just going to say I'm connected, but I don't have internet and I don't have. Okay. Okay. Which website do you want me going to? I am.
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Speaker 1
on the address bar please type my router info mm-hmm yeah that's it oh yeah it's sure yeah no need to no need so it's showing to you like the link sys now page yeah the link just now like a website yeah right yeah did you like the page
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Speaker 2
um, trying to reach links is now if you're trying to administer linksist now based Wi-Fi 7 router and reach this page and may be due to one of these reasons. um, um, your current device, sorry, you know, I don't need to read this to you. No, it's just No, it's just a page. It says trying to reach links is now you mark. And it's it's it's like it fails.
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Speaker 1
yes .got you. OK .let's try to access there using uh 192.168.1.1 I'm going to login [silence] I believe to 540 is your mod number it's just 1.1
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Speaker 2
It says you're trying to reach [link] this b... give. Yeah, just let me finish talking. You keep interrupting and I stop breathing. Uh maybe due to one of the reasons. Your current device is not connected to your router's network, which is not the case. I'm connected to it. Your VPN is enabled, which is not the case. Or you're using a custom DNS provider, which is also not the case. So it's not working. 192.168.1.254. 1
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Speaker 1
okay scroll it down go to the bottom then you have the option that says continue yeah just yeah jode and that one showed else okay what page are we in right now okay yeah please type your router password
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Speaker 2
I'm getting a link this why am I getting a warning when I try to access my router settings in a browser? It's like a warning. It's a link sorry Spages. It's gonna, okay. Connection is not private. This website may be impersonating show details. Safari warns you to learn more, you can, okay, visit the website. Okay. Continue the Wi-Fi. The smart. Yeah. Okay. Access router, router password sign in the
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Speaker 1
okay, by default, it's admin, so I'm using admin all lower case, just admin, admin. Okay, so if that's the case, sir, you might change it before, but if you can't remember it, just click on the reset password. Just click on reset. Yeah, it's underneath the router, sir, it's on the sticker on the device itself.
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Speaker 2
I don't know what it is. correct. anything else or just did min. I'm incorrect. Yeah, I'll try. Where do I find the recovery key?
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Speaker 1
Make sure to check the one on the parent node, the five-digit numbers. I've should be the key on the parent node. No, so that's the only way for us, like to( ... )so for this one there's, since the device is already outside of its warranty period, then we cannot provide our replacement.
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Speaker 2
the key didn't work. Okay, I'm not by that one right now. Yeah, I'm not by that one right now. Is there another way to do this? This is so fucking frustrating. Like are you so at the end of this when we figure this out, are you going to be able to replace these units for me or are we just wasting our time right now? So can I speak to a manager then because we're wasting our time right now. I've like I've documented this fucking problem 20 times with you guys. This is unacceptable.
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Speaker 1
Okay. Yeah, so for this one, so, let me place this call on hold, sir. Okay. Just give me 3 to 5 minutes. Let me check if we have available manager on the line. Yeah. If not, so, then I will look for our IM supervisor, okay? Right on. You're welcome.
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Speaker 2
I would like to speak to a manager that can actually make a call on this, because we're just wasting our time. Thank you. Yeah, that's great. Thank you.
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Speaker 1
Thank you for being patient, Gavin. Yeah, hi, Gavin. My name is Kirby, and I'm one of the supervisors here in Linux's technical support team. So, um yeah, so just to verify if we did get your concern correctly, so [ silence] populate a few like notes regarding your concern and basically what [ silence]
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Speaker 2
No problem. Awesome. Thank you so much. [silence] No, I'm great. Thank you. Someone told me I needed to be more kidding around better. So, the reason that I'm calling is I've had this problem going on, ongoing intermittently since I bought these units. I've been, I've, documented it numerous times. I've called in probably 20 to 30 different times about this exact same issue. Your support agents have continually strung me along telling me, oh, we've optimized settings, we've updated firmwares, we've done everything we can. Everything should be working fine now. It works fine for a couple days and then it goes right back to what it was doing before. I work out of town, so I don't always see it. I am told every single time I call, oh, don't worry, you still have lots of warranty left. Just call back and we'll get it replaced for you. I've been told that like 10 different times. I've called now because I'm back from work. I'm having the exact same problems that I've documented since day one. Go and look at my phone numbers. I highly recommend you do please and you'll see that I've called in like every six months or every year I call in over these same problems over and over and over again. I'm continually told that we'll get these replaced for me. We just wanna change noichi switch to a different parent node, update firmwares, do all these things that are gonna fix it they fix it temporarily. The problem I'm having is the all the devices connect to the nodes, it says I'm connected to the devices with full signal strength. But then when I try and do anything on the internet, it says I'm not connected to the internet. So I'll be in the middle of zoom meetings. I'll be in the middle of playing ranked video games. I'll be in the middle of doing all these important things to me and my internet is constantly cutting out. If I connect back to my Shaw modem or router, it works totally fine, then when I go back to Linksys, it says I'm connected, but you're not connected to the.
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Speaker 1
All right. So do I apologize. Alright, okay. And then, basically, it followed is... So, basically, it was also, yeah, I'm sorry. So, Gavin, Paulo is also offering you technical support to check what are the missing steps that could have, you know, could have resolved, okay?
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Speaker 2
So I've been told like countless times now that these are going to get replaced for me if the problem persists. The problems persisted for years and years and years and I had a sinking feeling that you guys were just saying this to string me along to get to the point where we're at today where oh hey, sorry, you're out of warranty. There's nothing we can do for you now. Why didn't you call back sooner? And I'm like, I did. I'm like, fuck. I'm all right. So. That's why I thought. It go ahead. I'll. Yes, so he's going to walk me through the same thing that your other techs have walked me through 25 different times that doesn't solve my problem. So I we can do it if he wants to do it, but I'm telling you it's just going to be a big waste of time because I've already had.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. Okay. So Gavin, so based in our, you know, system, you are right that uh the device is no longer covered with a warranty, you know, for a replacement. And also Gavin, yeah. Yeah. And basically our system won't be able to allow us to process a, you know, a replacement. Yeah, I do apologize. However, Gavin, I'm sorry. So So uh basically, Gavin, since the device is no longer under the, you know, warranty uh period of uh the device. So basically we our system won't be able to allow it to process a replacement. And uh the thing here Gavin as well is that um we no longer... or have, um, you know, um, a warehouse in, um, however, um, what, what, uh, we can probably, um, do is that to make sure we can still, uh, try to fix the issue of this device, we support, uh, the unit even though it's already out of warranty, we can provide you with, um, support. Mhm. Yeah. Don't worry, Gavin, cuz, uh, basically Paulo also will have to check, uh, what are the troubleshooting that that has been done, uh, on this unit, and, um, basically, um,
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Speaker 2
So, there's nothing you can do for me. I'm telling you, I've had this same problem since day one. What your guy's gonna, gonna do, isn't gonna fix anything. If this was working properly, it would have been fixed on my first call and you guys would have never heard from me again. Why would I continue to call you guys repeatedly? Like, please, like, I can give you case numbers, I can give you all these kinds of things, if it helps. Okay, so if if I go back to the tech and we troubleshoot everything and we're still not able to get this working properly, are you guys able to replace it?
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Speaker 1
um well I'm I do apologize but we can no longer process a replacement for this device because it's uh hmm yeah yeah yeah and I do apologize and uh because uh basically yeah and then also uh one of the thing that I um I need to discuss to is that um since you are looking for replacement uh I have to tell you that uh we can um um Lindex is no longer um you know offering a replacement um unit because uh we don't we no longer have a warehouse in the United States where we can ship uh a working unit to you or I'm sorry
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Speaker 2
[silence] So who like can I speak to your boss? Who do I need to speak to above you because this is absolutely ridiculous. I spent so much money on these piece of systems that don't even work properly, that haven't worked properly since day one, literally plugged it in day one, and I was calling you guys night one because I had problems. And you guys used to have 24 hour support, you don't even have that anymore. [silence] I don't live in the United States.
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Speaker 1
Canada. Okay, yeah, so same Gavin, we no longer have any warehouse in Canada that can provide you with a replacement unit. If ever, you will be requesting for a replacement. So my recommendation would be to go through the technical troubleshooting. And because basically, with your record here in our system, the device hasn't been deemed defective. So I think and I I have a I do apologize, Gary. I do apologize again that doesn't.
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Speaker 2
[ silicone ] Yes it has, your guys have already talked. like this is such bullshit. [ silence ] Like this is such a joke. like I'm literally gonna throw all this shit in the garbage can and I'm never gonna purchase another Lynis product again. like this is so poor.
49:00
Speaker 1
I hope you will give a chance to our technical, you know, representative and then I'm sorry to hear that. My recommendation would be the Technical troubleshooting advanced technical troubleshooting captain. Well, I can endorse this to one of our manager. However, I would have to So basically you will be hearing you know the same offer. But I can, you know, still Okay. So, Um, currently, we don't have a available manager. Um.
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Speaker 2
And now you're backing out of everything you say once again and you're playing the stupid game of, well, it's actually out of warranty now, when you guys have told me to keep, ah, this is, so there's nothing you're going to do for me. Okay, well, how do I escalate this further because your troubleshooting isn't going to do shit? Yes, I've already asked for a manager from the beginning. Okay, yeah, I would like okay.
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Speaker 1
Gavin, so I do apologize, but yes, we don't have an available manager as of this moment, but I can arrange. I'm sorry, Gavin, I have to... Basically, if you're going to hold, Gavin, it will last like more than three hours. So my recommendation would be a... Gavin, we can... Yeah, what I can promise you, we can't... Yeah, you go. Um, I cannot guarantee you that a callback will be processed today, Gavin. That's why it's going to be 24 to 48 hours, Gavin. All right. So I do, like I said, I'd apologize for the inconvenience and please expect a call from Gavin.
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Speaker 2
sure you do okay well I'll hold I'll hold well that's fine no are they going to call me back today because I go back to work tomorrow and I'm only able to sort this out today I can't leave my I can't leave my bed and breakfast without the Internet working properly and I need this shit working so I need somebody to call me today you guys are so frustrating all right well tell them to call me
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Speaker 1
within 24 to 48 hours. So thank you so much for your time, Gavin. Yeah. Have a great day. Bye-bye.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, no, I'm just gonna do shit. Thank you, bye.
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